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What is this mystery winch thing?


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Old 09-07-2017, 11:32:20 PM
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Default Re: What is this mystery winch thing?

So I made a quick trip out to my mystery machine tonight after work until it got dark out. I took a few more pics and a little video. I'll post the video here as that will be the most help I think.

https://youtu.be/IoFTCCa5fyE

Any more ideas?
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Old 09-11-2017, 11:30:40 PM
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Still searching for answers. I don't think it is one, but it has some similarities to a Stripper Harvester.

I didn't know about them either until tonight, learning all kinds of stuff through this search process

http://www.nma.gov.au/online_feature..._the_harvester

Or possibly part of a Sheaf Loader? Doesn't quite seem to be the answer either.
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Old 09-12-2017, 09:54:22 PM
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Got the machinery pulled out of the weeds today, and took some videos now that we can see things a bit better.



Let me know what you think. Thanks
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:07:44 PM
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Default Re: What is this mystery winch thing?

I wonder if this could have been something like the Hackney Auto Plow with the pulleys being for lifting the plows. Just a thought.
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:48:49 PM
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Default Re: What is this mystery winch thing?

Can you tell if the parts that appear to be guards on the pulleys, have possibly become rotated from there original working position so they would face the little pulleys?
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If nothing else, this thing is good as an education tool. I'm learning a lot about other things that it is NOT, LOL!

I have been thinking about the possibilities that may be opened back up if that rear were the wood is, really was a pipe because of the threads (only makes sense) and really was wider? How MUCH wider is any ones guess at this point, but some things where being narrow was a limiting factor, that is no longer the case possibly.

I did have a little better look at the guards last visit Halcon, and from what I can tell (until further clean up and inspection) the guards can not simply just pivot around and be in the wrong orientation. They have part of the bracket to keep them from rotating, so unless they were completely disassembled and reassembled this way (which may be and option?) it would not be an easy "flip them around quick" job.

But that thought crossed my mind too, because as is, there HAS to be some important pieces missing to even thread a cable in ANY logical way. The drive wheel is directly in line with the "bottom" or open side of the winch, so the cable would have nowhere to go?

Any ideas how it would thread? Take a 90* turn after the pulleys somehow?

It may be a dumb question, but does the winch pulley having the divider in the center (presumably to have two cables wound up on it?) provide any clues to it's use?
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Old 09-14-2017, 10:35:33 PM
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Default Re: What is this mystery winch thing?

believe it to be kinda light for some kind of stump puller ?
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Default Re: What is this mystery winch thing?

This is only a guess,
If the frame was standing up vertical , The pulleys system could be used to lift a Monkey ( Hammer ) up via wire ropes around the double winch pulleys and then latch with the two safety side latches , The two safety latches could be swung in out by a control rope via the top outside pulleys,
To drop the Monkey ,The double winch pulleys would be disengaged ,
So could this machine be a fence post driver ?
If the Monkey was heavy enough you could drive a post with one hit ?
Then lift the Monkey while moving to the next post,
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Default Re: What is this mystery winch thing?

Now there is some out of the box thinking Stuart! I like it. No idea if you are on to something or not, but the idea seems just as plausible as others offered thus far, LOL!
I'll have to look into pile drivers/post pounders a bit more now.

Fred, I'm not sure if it is too light duty for a stump puller or not? I can't say I've ever seen a stump puller in person before.

But back in the day, clearing fields and making fences were both needed in the prairie out here.

Which brings up a good point of discussion. Can anyone narrow down the possible time frame this might have been built (regardless of what it may be) based on the details of construction?
-Like the band of the drive wheel being lapped and riveted at the seam.
-using grease cups on the drive wheel.
-the way the spokes are threaded into the drive hub and hammered/flared out into the counter sunk rim (what it the proper termonology for this?)
-That style of roller chain (not sure if this one helps?)

Just some thoughts to spur further conversation.
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Default Re: What is this mystery winch thing?

That roller chain is not like our modern standard numbered series eg 50-60-80 ect. although a similar chain was used not too many years ago as feeder chain on combines and such.
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