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Old 12-06-2013, 07:35:22 AM
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I know this thread is about tractors but ?
How about " Geiser " sideshaft or " Rockford " sideshaft gasoline engines ?
I'm unsure what the engine feature is for that year but I was thinking E-B made some nice engines. We restored a 6hp that had gone through a fire. Maybe E-B and related engines. And Don, you've never needed a personal invite to bring something to Rollag.
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Here is a great web site for Emerson-Brantingham with a very good history http://emersonbrantingham.com/
Also Emerson-Brantingham took over both Geiser and Reeves on August 1, 1912 and sold it off at November 1, 1925 and please remember that J. I. Case bought Emerson-Brantingham in 1928 and they never had anything to do with Geiser or Reeves.
If you go to my web site I have the Geiser history and serial number list
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Here is a great web site for Emerson-Brantingham with a very good history http://emersonbrantingham.com/
Also Emerson-Brantingham took over both Geiser and Reeves on August 1, 1912 and sold it off at November 1, 1925 and please remember that J. I. Case bought Emerson-Brantingham in 1928 and they never had anything to do with Geiser or Reeves.
If you go to my web site I have the Geiser history and serial number list
http://members.myactv.net/~wmrohrer/
Mike,
I'll have to check out my material sometime when it isn't -17 outside, as it is now. My stuff from Lyle Hoffmaster, which included Haston St. Clair's notes, listed Reeves as selling effective 1-1-1912 but I couldn't verify that now if I wanted to. Somewhere there was a "quip" that Geiser also sold then, which I'm not able to verify either. You must show the legal papers and I would concede that to you.

Of course the Reeves plant burned in 1925 and at that time was listed as the worst fire ever in Columbus, Indiana.

I notice on your photos from your website, my friend John Schrock at the throttle of the late Austin Monk's Geiser-Peerless 40 hp Z-3 (road locomotive) engine plowing in the eastern part of the USA. While that engine has a Reeves double simple Canadian Special boiler, smokestack, rear axle and cannon bearing, rear wheels, extension rims and bull gears; the rest of it, i.e., motor, exhaust pipes, countershaft, and all gearing to that shaft, plus water tanks, there is more weight in Reeves parts, but IT IS ALL Emerson-Brantingham parts! All but the two bull pinions that Austin had manufactured in Seattle. I have lots of hours on that engine and loved every minute of it.

The photo below is the last one I took of Austin with his 50hp Case and Peerless together at his ranch, west of Kalispell, Montana in 1998, just before he sold it to Willis. Gary



PS: We'll have to mount a Briggs & Stratten engine atop that Peerless to turn the governor, then we can more freely talk about that steam engine here in Lugs & cleats.
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Gary,
Keep your eye on the mail, I will send you something first part of the week

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We have two EB engines and several implements that we will bring. I also think the engine feature that year should be Emerson. Looking forward to it!
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Also Emerson-Brantingham took over both Geiser and Reeves on August 1, 1912 and sold it off at November 1, 1925 and please remember that J. I. Case bought Emerson-Brantingham in 1928 and they never had anything to do with Geiser or Reeves.
So Emerson bought Reeves in August (or January) and sold it in November? I thought that Emerson had simply shut down the company and liquidated the assets. Who purchased Reeves from Emerson?

A few years ago I ran across a company by the name of Reeves selling hay equipment http://www.reeveswrapper.com/ I often wondered if they could have been related. Or is it the Reeves Pulley company, although I thought their history listed them as not having been sold to Emerson with the agriculture products.

BTW Master Power Transmission is still selling pulley drives with the Reeves name

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Frank. They bought Reeves in 1912 and sold it off in 1925. Don't know offhand who bought the factory building and assets. Geiser, I believe, was bought back by former Geiser people.
As a side note, even tho JI Case bought EB in 1928, that was not the end to Emerson Brantingham. Case bought the farm implement business from EB, the modern factory in Rockford, and the dealership network. Charles Brantingham still operated in a couple of the old Emerson -Talcott buildings in Rockford, making commercial truck bodies. Truck bodies were also made at the Batavia, Il. facility, also retained by Brantingham. Batavia was the old Newton Wagon Works. EB also dabbled in non ag related items for a time.
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I have two porcelain steel liner boxes for Emerson ice boxes. A former EB employee gave them to me. He, his father and an uncle had all worked for EB. The uncle, a former farmer who had used an F Oilpull ran my F frequently. He helped me babbitt the sliding gear shaft bearings on my E Oilpull in 1970 and he had worked in the EB powerhouse. All three of those are gone now.
Part of the EB facility is now used by Lebovich Steel Company. Part is Rockford City Yards. The office building is being used as such.
When and if I can relocate it, I have a nice EB leatherette catalog with many pictures and text.
Other agricultural machinery pioneers in Rockford were Manny (reaper) Talcott and Tinker. Attorney Abraham Lincoln won a law suit for one of them.
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I'm unsure what the engine feature is for that year but I was thinking E-B made some nice engines. We restored a 6hp that had gone through a fire. Maybe E-B and related engines. And Don, you've never needed a personal invite to bring something to Rollag.
I knew I still had it somewhere, because I'm really bad at throwing things away. Here is a copy of the topics from the gas engine meeting at the WMSTR fall annual meeting. It appears that the 2017 gas engine feature is currently Stover. Although, I think with enough commitment from others to bring E-B and related engines it wouldn't be hard or out of line to change it considering the time frame. It could easily be brought up at our spring meeting. Anybody interested?
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Jeremy, I think Stover was on the list of topics for feature but not fully decided. It is my plan to talk to you, Keven, JJ and bring it to the spring meeting. Thanks. Dad
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