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Ive seen people take old heavy equipment tires and cut them tofit between the cleats and bolt them down. I also saw one where a guy removed all the cleats and took old tracror tires and cut the sidewalls out and bolted them to the wheels
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Its currently in the stat below.
Made some stands for it yesterday so need to do something for the front end. Continue with the rubbing down and then get some primer and paint on it.

Question I have is. What should be the actual position of the rear axles? As you can see my left one is turned slightly so need to get them in an equal position.
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I usually put them toward the rear. You see some facing up but it really doesnt matter with F style housings.
I would suggest putting the front axe back on and support it with Jack stands on each side out toward tell spindles. A little safer.
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As mentioned I am going to make some stands for the front. Going through the trunnion and using a trunnion pin.

I cant put the front axle on as I will miss the inside of the front casing when spraying and the axle will be sprayed separately.

Like an idiot I had not thought of looking in the manual for the correct orientation. From what I can see they point straight back or slightly down (whatever the bolts allow I guess).
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A quick update. She is coming along now. New valve guide and valve fitted. The valve guide was a bugger to remove and snapped in half.
I hope I do not have to do too many of them. There is a little play in some of the other valves but I will replace as and when I need too

Back to metal on the actual tractor almost but have bit the bullet and got a sand blaster as grinding with wire wheel just was not taking it all off.

I am awaiting for my newly reconditioned recoiled and re insulated stator to come back along with my very weak magnets now trying to pull the moon closer to arrive in the mail. The nice fresh flywheel is looking good too.

I can then put the 2 halves back together ready for sand blasting and then it will be paint time.

Dreading paint time but also looking forward to reassembly.

A fergi has also joined the collection
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Be careful with the sandblasting, the sand crawls through the smallest openings isnside the castings and will be the worst enemy for all the mechanical moving things and can destroy the engine.
Do you get all new coils for the flywheel? Where do you get them?
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I agree with Butch about the Jenga Blocks on the rear and a jack stand on the front as quite scary. Its starting to come along nicely but the hard parts are still to come. Keep up with the pictures and words because many of us want to share your trip without getting dirty. Thanks Ed B
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The newly wound and insulated stator has arrived looking super clean and sharp.
New magnets strong enough to pull those gps satellites closer.

Its now time to look at what manifold to order

Next up that can be done is putting the 2 halves back together, a sandblast and paint time.
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OK so who was going to tell me I need to strip the block back down to get the flywheel off or were you all waiting for me to make that mistake?
For some reason I though I could unbolt them from the outside.

Anyway all swapped over and back as a whole.

On the flywheel there was a hole and a line. The line and hole were in a different place on the other flywheel. I checked all the manuals I could find and could not see anywhere that suggested the flywheel had to go on a certain way?
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I hope the answer was that it makes no difference. I did not "time" my flywheel in any way. Sorry, didnt even think about your magnets not being on yet.
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Just bolt it on as the holes line up. The magneto clearance is set using shims behind the mounting bolts. The rear main cap has a thrust surface and the crank must be zero axial thrust when the clearance is set.
When the thrust surface is worn the clearance increases.....then you have to park it facing downhill in order to start it...
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I will be trying it on coils but they will be there for looks more then usage so it wont make much difference if it wears over time.

I am going to use the mod that was done to the ignition system from my french F as I have all nos parts for it.

Its now back as one piece so I need to get the steering box rebuilt, make new gaskets and fit that, the pulley and the gear stick back on and its sand blast time.
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Did you make sure that the magnets were —N & SS when you had put them back on?
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Did you make sure that the magnets were —N & SS when you had put them back on?
No I put them on the way they came off, taking them off one at a time and screwing them to a board a made. I maybe new but I have read all the manuals that are available for the important parts of the rebuild Just the silly things I tend to miss

A bit crud but heres a pic and done the job. Person who re-magnetised them also kept them in order.
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Question regarding magnet charging as I am looking into building a charger. There is no one in my area who does this. After reading many other informative STAK threads on the subject, mostly applying to single horseshoe mags unlike the Fordson mag... I am wondering would the proper procedure for this mag be to charge each magnet, place a keeper bar on it then reinstall to the flywheel (obviously with attention to N/S orientation) at which time it would be safe to remover the keeper? At this point does the flywheel take the place of the keeper. Are all magnets required to be in place with a keeper on each before removal?

I am running a Wico on my F model but have tested the flywheel mag and it has little to no output, I plan to have mine spilt this winter for clutch service and a busted gear tooth in the transmission (Gee I wonder if those problems are related ) and may attempt to charge mostly as a learning project. If successful there are a couple other Fordson restorations taking place in my area requiring a mag charge.

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I believe my thread under 1938 Fordson All Around shows the complete process of recharging the magnets step by step. If you are going to use a magneto drive there is no reason to recharge the magnets since they will play no part in making a spark. Ed B
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Thanks Ed, as I said I'm mostly planning to use myself as a guinea pig, a learning process. There are a couple local restorations on going which will be using the flywheel mag and I would like to help out if I can. I found your thread and will read over it.

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Where in the US can you get a radiator core for a F that's somewhat affordable? I know fordson house has them but I can't go $600! Does anyone know of a more affordable solution?
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Where in the US can you get a radiator core for a F that's somewhat affordable? I know fordson house has them but I can't go $600! Does anyone know of a more affordable solution?
Mine had a couple damaged tubes and fins on the front but the backside was perfect. My Father had the idea to flip the core around making the back the front. It required drilling new holes in the core flange for the 1/4-20 flange bolts as well as making an overflow tube from 1/2" copper pipe with an "S" bend in it (the overflow tube passes through the core). We then installed the core and top tank, passed an "S" bent copper pipe through the core, threaded an NPT plug in the drain which had a hole in it for the over flow tube and soldered when in place. This does require unsoldering to drain but we had access to free antifreeze at the time so... maybe drilling out a 1/2" compression fitting so the overflow tube passes through would allow wrench removal... anyways it might be backyard but hey, it works, looks perfect from the front and was FREE

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Edit the "S" bent tube must be passed through the core before it is set on the base, once lined up it was soldered to the plug.
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