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1929 Allis Chalmers Kerosene 20 35


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Default Re: 1929 Allis Chalmers Kerosene 20 35

so I have been trying to get a rad curtain remade cause I plan to run kerosene in this thing. I thought of trying to copy something like this picture of a rad curtain from a cross motor case and I manage to mess around with the picture enough to figure out what it all says, or should I just leave it as a blank canvass?
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Default Re: 1929 Allis Chalmers Kerosene 20 35

Cody,
That is neat. It would look good on any make.
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As best I could make out this is what it says

To tractor operator

This curtain is put in for a definite purpose and should be used as per following instructions.

Before starting raise curtain to top notch in the frame and do not lower till water in radiator becomes hot about 180 f

Do not switch over to kerosene until water in radiator reaches 190 f

Keep curtain as high as possible without boiling water in radiator depending on load and weather conditions
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Default Re: 1929 Allis Chalmers Kerosene 20 35

Cody If you have the words and a good idea of the letter type [Font] any good silk screen printer could easily print it for you. If interested send me the words and the fabric and I'll get it done for you. Been printing for 30 years now. If interested give me a PM Ed B
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Cody and I have been working on the printing of a replacement of this shutter canvas. Tony what can you tell me about the weight of the material and possible original color. I assume letters were black. I have attached a copy of the words in a fond as close as I have on my computer. I welcome any comments on the layout, size, positioning etc. from anybody in stak land.
I have to take a picture and post later. Thanks
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Cody I layed out the words as best I could from the picture you posted and came up with a close match on the Font. I printed a tan canvas to your size requirements 24X 30 today. You will be able to cut and sew it for your radiator size. I have attached a couple of pics. Send a PM with your address and I'll send it to you. Ed B
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THAT! Is perfect!!
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Default Re: 1929 Allis Chalmers Kerosene 20 35

Nice accessory. I know of a few dual fuel 20-35s and have never seen one with a radiator blind. They are not shown in any of my original parts manuals for the 20-35, so I don't know if they were available back in the day. The 20-35 is a cool running tractor, so something would be required to get the engine temp up to burn kero or distillate efficiently.

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I assume that mine had one cause of the frames on each side to hold it
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Default Re: 1929 Allis Chalmers Kerosene 20 35

It probably did.

I wonder if it was originally standard on the dual fuel tractors? Otherwise, how would you get it hot enough to burn the kero efficiently? Most have been converted to run on gas so that blind assembly may have been removed. Be nice to find reference to it in a parts manual, as I'm sure others with dual fuel tractors would like to have one. Maybe Ed can do a small production run of the blinds. The metal frames would be pretty simple to make. If one of my tractors was dual fuel, I would like a blind for it!
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Now that I have the screen I can do a run easily and glad to do it. The brown duck would be 24"X36" which will accommodate most radiators. I can do it larger if necessary. Anyone interested PM me. Ed B
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Nice accessory. I know of a few dual fuel 20-35s and have never seen one with a radiator blind. They are not shown in any of my original parts manuals for the 20-35, so I don't know if they were available back in the day. The 20-35 is a cool running tractor, so something would be required to get the engine temp up to burn kero or distillate efficiently.

Nice job on that, Ed!
Yes a very nice job, and I would too be possibly be interested in one, but I'd like to see some info on what, if anything, they had originally. I'm the first to admit I am a relative newbie to this stuff, but I have never seen a short fender 20-35 with an original curtain either. And for that matter what kind of track system they may have had.

And not to get too side tracked with this post, but
For that matter I'd like to see an ORIGINAL longfender 20-35 curtain as well. As I'm in the process of making some for mine. (now that summer is here tractor stuff is on the back burner though) I assumed they were blank, but if they had silk screen originally, I'd LOVE to have that too!
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Ed, that's a beauty! Thanks for doing that for Cody!
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So time for a update, awhile back I decided I would just try to repair the lower tank myself so got it saND blasted and made a few pieces to braze on and it seemed to work ok then sanded the gasket surface on both tanks. I couldn't get plain black bolts in the size I needed so I put them in a container of toilet bowl cleaner to strip the zinc off and I thought they look alright after they were done. A big thank you to Phil Johnson for the seat stand and a couple other parts!
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I also got it running today, Here is the videos, in the first one the float was sticking for most of the time then near the end I was getting it leaned out and the mag coupling flew off cause the mag wasent sitting quite right. the second one the tractor is running on kerosene, I was surprized how quickly it wanted to switch over, after about 10 minns on gas it started running rough so turned on the kero and it ran real nice! still some tuning to do,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R1yRJ69xusA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q5MBJ33w0k
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The only thing that bugs me about it is that the rear ends leaks some oil, it slowly drips out of the brake pulley shaft anyone got any ideas?
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Default Re: 1929 Allis Chalmers Kerosene 20 35

There is a oil seal of sorts on that shaft, felt I believe.
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I was wondering if anybody knew if the modern equivalent for the oil filter on these? I took some measurements but if someone knows one that already works......
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Call Norm Meinart >>> http://www.normsactractors.com

If he doesn't know NOBODY does.......
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w 9 international filter is the same. if i remember its a napa 1155
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