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Hart Parr 18-36 Project Advice?


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Old 09-05-2017, 07:38:28 AM
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Hey all,
Update on the project. I was playing with the hart parr this weekend and got it tuned in. I checked the crank shaft to see if it was out of round as one of the babbet bearings was totally shot. it looked good. only being about 6 thousands out of round.


Check out this video of it idling. you can almost count the RPMs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObLUB_WLbD4

the next issue to tackle, I noticed when the engine is off and the clutch is engaged, that the belt pulley has a ton of play in it. Im able to turn the pulley almost an 1/8th to a 1/4 of a turn when is shouldn't turn at all. Im not sure if there is a spline shaft that is work out near the clutch pads or what?
Any thoughts or recommendations on this?
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The splines on your input shaft are worn. Most all of the tractors that have done any kind of belt work over the years have some wear to them. When we overhauled our 18-36 we got lucky and and a real nice Hart Parr collector sent us a shaft and hub that looked like new. I'm not sure if they could be repaired or not.

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I assumed that was the case. As far as I can tell, this tractor never pulled a plow. The gearing is flawless.


Also, Does anyone here have a Hart Parr that has some sort of Tag mounted on the Crank side on the radiator? I have attached a picture of where I have the holes for a tag. I assume it was a dealer tag or a Canada tag as that's where the tractor came out of.
If anyone has pictures of a similar tag id love to see one.

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What are the hole dimensions on the side of your rad? My 18-36 has four holes in that same general location, but no tag either!
Where in Canada did your Hart Parr originally come from? The John Goodison Thresher Co. in Sarnia,Ontario was the sole distributor for Hart Parr and later Oliver. I have seen John Goodison tags on Oliver tractor's but not Hart Parr's. There is at least one Hart Parr I have seen pictures of that had John Goodison stenciled onto the channel frame however.
Besides Goodison, the tractor may have passed through Waterloo Mfg. as part of a trade in/used equipment sale. This company was a distributor for several U.S. manufacturers and handled a lot of used equipment during the teens, 20's and 30's. They most definitely applied brass tags identifying them as the dealer.
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After a quick search on the web, I found 5 or 6 pictures of Hart Parr's with tags on the radiators but every single one of them is a New Zealand Special. Ive seen pictures of the 3 popular models with the tag but not one of them had the Charles City radiator on it.
could they have drilled holes for all tractors that were getting exported?

I don't have the measurements of the holes on mine. I do know there are 4 holes that held the tag at the corners.
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What is the serial number on your 18-36?
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mine is SN 33066 should be a 1928 if I recall
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Hi Andy,

My 18-36 has this tag on the radiator.

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THAT IS AWESOME! Thank you so much for showing me that. I want to get a reproduction one made to put back on mine.

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I am curious what other ones look like...

I think the fancy lettering on this one
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I have a 12-24 and a 18-36 with the holes drilled, but no tags.

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Hi Andy,

My 18-36 has this tag on the radiator.
Brecht, it looks like your Hart-Parr was originally sold locally to me.
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I have a 12-24 and a 18-36 with the holes drilled, but no tags.

Steve
Will they be at any more MN shows yet this year?


That is a really cool brochure. that would be a cool set to have with a tractor that has that tag on it.
Im going to do some investigating on all the Hart parrs I know of and see if they are all predrilled or not. They might have just come that way from the factory.
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