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Old 01-19-2007, 01:15:26 AM
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This was taken on a visit to Crosby back in the late 80s. I remember it like yesterday but a lot of time has passed since
Wasn't sure whether to post this here or in the Hart-Parr thread, but Kelly T just posted an up to date picture of the ol' H-P. Those beautiful ol' dry country tractors, eh? You can still see the original paint and lettering. You gotta love it!
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Old 01-21-2007, 08:45:19 PM
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Here are a couple of pictures of the E that I have had the great privilage of operating for over 20 years.
It is owned by Lyle Edgar.
Lyle's father Alex (center) bought this tractor from the late Danny Roen in 1967 I believe.
Alex told me that Danny had quite a line of tractors that he could pick from but decided on the Rumely.
It is a 1912 model.
It came with the large rad and a small one.
Alex felt it looked better with the small one.
The back side of the rad has two small tin covers over the holes where the rear exhaust port pipes would have gone thru.
Alex told me that the tractor was sent back to the factory in 28 to be rebuilt.
At that time new style cylinders were put on.
The deck was changed from wood to steel.
Russ Reeve (left) was hired by Alex in the 70's to restore the tractor to working order. I remember driving along the 401 west of Kitchener and seeing it sitting in Russ's yard.
They finally got it going in the late 70's or early 80's.
It came to Steam Era for the first time I think in 81.
Alex for what ever reason had no interest in running it so had Russ operating it, but Russ didn't want to have to run it all the time.
Alex approached Dad (right) as he felt he, being a died in the wool Rumely man, would take care of his "favorite" tractor. This I think was in 83 the first time that we featured Rumely at Steam Era.
In 85 Dad took his Waterloo Steam engine to the show for the first time and had his hands full with it so told me that I was to take care of the E.
Well lets say that I didn't argue.
Since then it's been my baby.
Sadly both Alex & Dad are gone now, but Lyle & I who have been friends since the early 60's have the same arrangement as his Dad & my Dad did.

Ross

PS Color pic taken 2005 at Steam Era, B&W taken circa 1987 at Paris ON steam show. "G" the B&W was taken for a newspaper article in the Paris or Brantford area. I never saw the article, if you should happen to have it or find it I would really like to get a copy.
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Old 01-22-2007, 09:01:25 PM
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Hey G

We were talking about Schell's E earlier in the thread.
Well as you probably know I missed Steam Era this year for 2 reasons, 1st to follows the Rumely's, 2nd it was one of 2 shows that Dad really wanted to see but never got to.
Anyways I was walking along and noticed these big boys and I got this nagging feeling that I had seen this E before.
I had, 35 years or more ago.
I talked to the fellow who own's it now (I forget his name, sorry) & he confirmed that he bought it from Norm.

It's kind of like Alex's E, and you & I, hasn't changed much, just has that aged look!!!!

The B belongs to Ron Miller. Ron was not well but wanted his tractor there. Jerry Wolgamood ran it during the show. Ron did make it to the banquet Sat night.
I believe Ron got this tractor at the Earl Marhanka sale some 20 years ago.


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What do you mean, has that aged look - speak for yourself ol' man!!!!!!
Sorry to hear that Ron Miller has not been well. He is one of the best in my books!
Thanks for the pictures. Great to see the one of Russ, Alex and your dad. Alex and I went "out west" some years ago and we stopped around the area in North Dakota where his E came from in hopes of finding out something. Seems to me we found some pictures in the local library but couldn't say for sure they were of his? There were lots of those tractors out there! Something tells me it was near Enderlin, ND?? South west of Fargo? But that was quite a few years back now.
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The E in your picture belongs to Jerry Shahan from Missouri
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Here is a shot that should go with some above of Murray Johannson's E. Left to right are Clyde Hall, Bob Anderson and Murray.
Also, a line up of big power at Rollag, MN. Rumely F, 20-40 Case and an A&T. Never a shortage of things to see and hear at Rollag
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i was in rockymoutinhouse alberta a number of years ago in a gift shop looking in book on history of the area. there was a picture of what looked like a 14-28 belted to a big older oillpull. it had a real tall tall stack on it. unlike most of the ones you see. the rear wheels were lower than a E. it prabably was a early B. mabey someone from that area can find that picture and scan and post it.
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Here is a rare photo of a big Rumely (Model E?) hauling guns in Volyn, Ukraine c.1916.

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David, that looks for sure like an E! Does anyone know how many Rumely's were shipped to Russia?

Also, I have been told that the early E's did not have this frame reinforcement, and had weak point in the chassis beam where the transmission axle passes. Don't know when they began to fit this in the factory, but it seems that many of the early ones were retrofitted. Can someone shed any light on this?
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Here is a rare photo of a big Rumely (Model E?) hauling guns in Volyn, Ukraine c.1916.

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David?
But whose side are they hauling for?
I guess you couldn't yet think of that as "Stealth" technology with that Rumbling Rumely barking away on the head end!!??
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But whose side are they hauling for?
I guess you couldn't yet think of that as "Stealth" technology with that Rumbling Rumely barking away on the head end!!??
Thanks.
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G.,

I assume it was for the Russian side. Let's just hope those swords were beaten into ploughshares afterwards.

David

P.S. This is how I would rather see a Rumely working:

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I had talked to someone about that frame brace at one time but don't remember the details any more.
I looked at the picture of Epping's E which is supposed to be the oldest left.
It does not have the brace as on the Edgar E, but it looks like something is in that area but it is hard to tell what it is.
Maybe Chris will let us know.
I just checked a copy of Rumely Collector's News from earlier this year which has 2 pics of a real early E recently found in the bush in Saskatchewan.
The pulley side does not have the brace.
Can't tell on the flywheel side because of bush.

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I had talked to someone about that frame brace at one time but don't remember the details any more.
I looked at the picture of Epping's E which is supposed to be the oldest left.
It does not have the brace as on the Edgar E, but it looks like something is in that area but it is hard to tell what it is.
Maybe Chris will let us know.
I just checked a copy of Rumely Collector's News from earlier this year which has 2 pics of a real early E recently found in the bush in Saskatchewan.
The pulley side does not have the brace.
Can't tell on the flywheel side because of bush.

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Ross?
Just noticed your name is in the "green" now on here. As a subcriber, you know you can post lots of pix? nudge, nudge,
Keep on the sunny side,
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Does anyone know if there are blueprints for a Rumley Oil pull tractor out there somewhere? My husband wants to build one in a 1/3 scale. Any help would be appreciated
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Kim: Rather than re-writing my response to your querry. I gave you some thoughts to ponder in the Steamer's thread where you posted this same question.

That being said, anybody here have a pic of Paul Stoltzfoos [sic] nice little Rumely 15-30 that they could post here for Kim. I have some but they are not scanned. I know he used a Fairbanks gas engine, and a Rumely 12-20 under carriage [is that corret].

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Just noticed your name is in the "green" now on here. As a subcriber, you know you can post lots of pix? nudge, nudge,
Keep on the sunny side,
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Ya I had too as I had run out of space.
I know I've got a bunch of pictures but I have to find them.
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Kim: Rather than re-writing my response to your querry. I gave you some thoughts to ponder in the Steamer's thread where you posted this same question.

That being said, anybody here have a pic of Paul Stoltzfoos [sic] nice little Rumely 15-30 that they could post here for Kim. I have some but they are not scanned. I know he used a Fairbanks gas engine, and a Rumely 12-20 under carriage [is that corret].

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I have seen Paul's 15-30 when it was still under construction, but did not take a picture Same for his Otto tractor, on which he did a very fine job. He even sourced the old style chassis beams from two different places somewhere in the States!
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Here is a great picture my good friend Joe Tielsman gave me.
He got to the first Rumely Expo in Rushville early one morning before there were too many people around.
I'm pretty sure that the B belong's to Ed Fiscus. I think he had just got it from Bill Krumwiede.
Not sure who the other tractors belong to.

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Ross,
That is quite a line up of power above! Now here's a question, and it was asked of me just recently. Is Mr. Krumwiede still with us? Last I had heard, they had maybe moved off the farm and into Minot???? Very nice people, friendly and hospitable.
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As far as I know Rumely Bill is still with us. I did hear that he was in a "home" now. I don't know about his wife.
I took Dad out to Crosby in 90. He had never met Bill, only had conversed by letter and maybe on the phone.
I introduced them as I had met Bill several times, but did not know him well.
Sometime later in the weekend I told Dad that he should ask Bill if he was going to be home on the Monday and if so we could stay over and go down to see his collection.
Bill said that he would be home.
We got there mid morning the next day and Bill gave us the grand tour.
Well after a while they got talking Rumelies and old boy talk, so I just wandered around the yard.
I am so glad I was able to see Bill's stuff & give Dad the opportunity as he had always heard of Bill as he had heard of Dad.
A year or so later I heard that Bill was starting to sell stuff off & then Dad started getting sick.
I just get a warm feeling whenever I think of the trip.

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Something that always stuck in my mind about the vist to Bill's was the story he told about the tractor pictured here.
It was his father's, I think from new. It is a 14-28
A couple of years later I thought I recognized it at a Rumely Expo.
I asked the owner about it and he confirmed that it had been Bill's & he got the same story.
Turns out this fellow & I had met briefly before at Rollag while I was in the fire box of the 120 Rumely rolling flues.
Well a lot of water has gone under the bridge since and he & I have become very good friends and have enjoyed lots of "Steam Showin" together.
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