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Old 01-27-2007, 05:15:28 PM
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These tractors belong to Graham Sellers.
They are an E & S.
Both very nice.
My wife & I stopped in to see Graham and his wife on our way to Mt. Pleasant this year.
They are really nice people.
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Well a lot of water has gone under the bridge since and he & I have become very good friends and have enjoyed lots of "Steam Showin" together.
Ross,

Knowing the two of you, Jamie and I are questioning the "water" under the bridge.

Sharon:
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FYI Rumely Bill is living in an assisted living facility in Minot with his wife about 4 blocks from my home.
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Marcel

I had talked to someone about that frame brace at one time but don't remember the details any more.
I looked at the picture of Epping's E which is supposed to be the oldest left.
It does not have the brace as on the Edgar E, but it looks like something is in that area but it is hard to tell what it is.
Maybe Chris will let us know.
I just checked a copy of Rumely Collector's News from earlier this year which has 2 pics of a real early E recently found in the bush in Saskatchewan.
The pulley side does not have the brace.
Can't tell on the flywheel side because of bush.

Ross
Ross,
You're right, our E does not have the bracing underneath. I apologize for the poor picture, what you're seeing is cooling oil plumbing. One of our F's has it & the other does not. The one that does not have it had some hairline cracks in the frame that we had to locate, grind out, and repair. That is the reason they put the braces on the later tractors. Our F's are not that far apart in numbers. One is late 1912 & the other is 1913. Not sure where the break is, but you could probably look it up in a parts book & see where they changed the oil pump from the under mount style to the top mount style.

There are a lot of interesting stories around about frames breaking on early Rumelys. A tractor not far from us fell to pieces when the frame broke. It had been used in the road building effort here in Nebraska & then a local farmer bought it after it broke down. He ordered new frame rails & a good number of other parts to overhaul the tractor. Upon seeing the unusually large parts order, a Rumely manager came out to see what was going on. He told the farmer he would never get the thing back together as all he had were a few crude tools & a winch hung in the branch of a stout old tree. A few months later after he had the tractor up & running well, the same Rumely man came out & offered the farmer a job with the company. I would question this story, but I've seen the pictures of parts of the tractor with the broken frame hanging from the tree & then after the overhaul!

I like the looks of the trussing on the frame. I actually have a couple truss rods for an E if anyone is missing them.

But yes, the early tractors did not have the braces. I can look in a parts book if anyone is interested in knowing the serial number break.

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Picture of bracing on later F.
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My F is a 1916 model, SN# 7868. It has the bracing. I wonder how far back before you find them without it?
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Old 01-28-2007, 08:29:18 PM
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My F is a 1916 model, SN# 7868. It has the bracing. I wonder how far back before you find them without it?
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I looked up the break in the parts book. 1912 had no trussing. 1913 was the first year for the trussing. They don't list a serial number, just the year.

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Hi

Need help with these ( i am not a rumely guy ) but like the looks to them never under stood how they rate them , i do know the difference between the lightweight and the heaveyweight
All you could see were oilpulls everwhere

Maybe Ross or G could fill you in

These were taken down at Wauseon Ohio a few years back 2003 i think

Tim
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That being said, anybody here have a pic of Paul Stoltzfoos [sic] nice little Rumely 15-30 that they could post here for Kim. I have some but they are not scanned. I know he used a Fairbanks gas engine, and a Rumely 12-20 under carriage [is that corret].
Here's a pic from this year's Rough and Tumble show at Kinzer, PA.

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Chris,
Thanks for the info on the bracing. Did I ever ask you if you had a extra set of extension rims for an "F"? Let me know. Thanks
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Thanks for the info on the bracing. Did I ever ask you if you had a extra set of extension rims for an "F"? Let me know. Thanks
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Rick,
No extra sets. Have one that will probably go on one of the tractors if we ever get one done! Probably wouldn't sell that set, only possibility right now would be a trade on something good or partial trade on something really nice.

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Chris

Thanks for the info on the frame braces.
It makes me wonder if the frame braces on the Edgar E were added when it was rebuilt in 29.
It is a 1912 serial # 849 I think.

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Tim

Your 1st pic is of the Rumely All Purpose tractors.
There were 2 at Wauseon.
The 3 plow version in the forground owned I think by Rick Horning and the 2 plow version in the background owned by Jim Erdle.
I don't know much about them other than what I have read in books.
I believe they were sold in the mid teens.
They are probably the rarest of Rumely tractors.

The top pic in your 4th pic are from left to right
B of Ron Miller
E of Rick Horning
E that came up from Argentina, don't know the owner.

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Here is an early E that used to be at New Rockford ND.
Note the round spoke front wheels and large rad.
It is hard to tell from the angle, but it looks like it has the later formed exhaust pipes and no front exhaust pipes.
If I remember correctly the front exhaust ports may have been capped off
This pic was taken in the early 80's.
I think the tractor was sold in the mid 80's and moved.
Does anyone know where it is now?

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I looked up the break in the parts book. 1912 had no trussing. 1913 was the first year for the trussing. They don't list a serial number, just the year.

Chris
Ours is a 1912, serial # 1472, and it has the trussing, so these are probably retrofit? Mr. Stambaugh got it from Mr. Krumwiede in the 60's, but I don't know where Mr. Krumwiede had it from? Maybe someone can fill this in?

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Ours is a 1912, serial # 1472, and it has the trussing, so these are probably retrofit? Mr. Stambaugh got it from Mr. Krumwiede in the 60's, but I don't know where Mr. Krumwiede had it from? Maybe someone can fill this in?

Best regards
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Marcel,
The info I checked in the parts book (1912-1913 break) was in reference to the model F. I'm not sure where the break on the E's was. One would assume it was at the same time as the F, but I can't say for certain. I'd have to check the book again & see if it mentions anything on the E's. But, I'm sure that retrofits were done as frame integrity was quite a concern. Regards,

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Here are a couple of Rumely items from the Winnipeg trials about 1911-12?
If you did well in these events, you boasted about it and advertised. If you didn't do so well, then the event never happened!!
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Mr. Tim Hoover from near Barrie, Ontario has been sending me photos and just sent a batch of Oil Pull stuff from the 60s. I'll post them over the next little while. This 15-30 F model is now owned by Jack Shelby in New York State. It has been much travelled and was brought into Ontario by Gord Smith of Orillia in 1969. Mr. Smith got it from Earl Davidson over in Michigan. Later, it went to Don Calhoun at Beeton, ON. But here it is as it came to Smith's and at Milton Steam Era show.
Oh! That's little Timmy and his pal John Stel at the controls in the one shot! Thanks for all the great pictures Tim! I might have to take back all the nasty things I have been saying about you!??!
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one that has not been mentioned is the ford family of milton i have memorys of it being restored in their driveway they didnt have a shop to restore tractors yet at that time i must have been 6 or 7 at that time maybe g could
post pics of that tractor .john
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So here are a couple more of Tim's photos of the F that was formerly in Ontario to go with the ones from a couple of posts back. First is at the Milton show in about 1970 and she is belted up to help start a 16-30 owned at the time by Don Calhoun. He must have liked what he saw, because he ended up buying the F and she is seen being unloaded in their yard at Beeton around 1972!!!
And case-r?? Don't know if I have any of the Ford's F????
Thanks again to Tim Hoover
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