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Gas Traction Big 4 from Blomgren Estate


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Old 10-18-2010, 08:50:04 AM
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Allan, can I ask where you found the serial number marked on your tractor? It would be useful to know this for future reference. The earliest Big 4 I have found so far is the one in the pics below, which is based at the Pioneer Museum, Paso Robles, California. I couldn't find an obvious serial no. marked on it, but the information board said that the tractor was bought new in 1907 and it has an earlier style of radiator than any others I've seen so far.

Perhaps you could drop me an email (at david@steel-wheels.net) and we could compare notes on surviving tractors? I have names and locations for most of the tractors in my list, but thought it was best not to put them online unless the tractors are on public display or I have the owner's permission.

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The radiator is quite a bit shorter than mine is, but the big difference is the gas tank. Pictures of the earlier ones I have seen show a square tank on top.
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Allan,

Looks like a nice shop you have there.

Any CNC machines?

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We have 7 CNC machines. The largest is a Horizontal Machining Center with 102 inches of X travel, 60 inches Of Y travel, and 40 inches of Z travel with a table that rotates in 1 degree increments
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Allan, what show will you be regularly attending with your Big 4? Maybe you said it above and I'm sorry to ask, though I'm still in awe at your progress!!! Fantastic job on this!
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Here are a couple pictures of the castings and some of the owners of the castings at Rollag, Minnesota.
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Allan, what show will you be regularly attending with your Big 4? Maybe you said it above and I'm sorry to ask, though I'm still in awe at your progress!!! Fantastic job on this!
I would assume we will be attending Root River Show near Spring Valley, Minnesota and The Little Log House Show near Hastings, Minnesota. We will see about other shows later on.
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We have 7 CNC machines. The largest is a Horizontal Machining Center with 102 inches of X travel, 60 inches Of Y travel, and 40 inches of Z travel with a table that rotates in 1 degree increments
Which Cad/Cam software are you using?

Sounds like a nice shop.

How many motors, transmissions etc for the Big 4's are you building? Who is doing the castings and patterns?

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Which Cad/Cam software are you using?

Sounds like a nice shop.

How many motors, transmissions etc for the Big 4's are you building? Who is doing the castings and patterns?

Bubbles
We program by hand. No cad or cam. We are building various parts for 5 engines, but are basically building 4 complete engines. We have been using the Dakota Foundry in Webster South Dakota, Tomahak Foundry in Rice Lake Wisconsin, NRB foundry in St. Charles Minnesota, and Ray Olson in Brandon Minnesota. We have been fortunate enough to get most of our castings off of original parts, but there is a cylinder pattern out there that we have been using.
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I think OTTO said it best when he said it looked like it couldn't have gone to a better home. Thanks for the progress pics and I eagerly await the next installment!
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and Ray Olson in Brandon Minnesota.
Interesting, I have never heard of him and I am only about 20 miles away. Of course, I haven't been looking for any foundry work, but interesting to hear about someone right in your back yard. What capabilities does he have?
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I used Ray many times for small castings.
Great quality and FAST turn around too!

I think the largest core box he has is 24".
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Interesting, I have never heard of him and I am only about 20 miles away. Of course, I haven't been looking for any foundry work, but interesting to hear about someone right in your back yard. What capabilities does he have?
We use Ray for the smaller parts. I don't think he can pour a real big part, but I don't know for sure. He does a real nice job for us.
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Hats off to you guys. Our projects look small.

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David Parfitt asked "can I ask where you found the serial number marked on your tractor? It would be useful to know this for future reference"

On our tractor number 97 the serial number was painted on the front end and was also found stamped on the end of the crankshaft as shown in the photo. I think the serial number was found on a couple of other engine parts...not sure though right now. A serial number of 96 was found on the transmission.

A question I have about #6, can anyone provide some photos of the engine and the length of the frame rails?
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here are a couple more pictures of the cylinder machining process.
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Very strange to see such an old machine being remade on high tech gear! Very cool though. Can you imagine what a person who originally assembled one of these would say now?
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Allan;
In my retirement I did some repair work on DeVlig Spiramatic Jig Bore machines and thought they would do this sort of work. The shop had 4 of them.
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I recently received the original papers from Janet that Morris had when he purchased the Big 4 chassis and the original pictures also.
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Here are the original pictures from the Stan Reynolds museum.
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I have recently made the steering chain spring assembly for the Big 4. I had to do a lot of searching to find the correct spring to match the original spring. I was able to obtain it from John Deere. I told John Deere that at one time they marketed the Big 4, so they should have parts in stock.
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