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Old 08-18-2012, 04:09:48 PM
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Earlier this year I was amazed to see Husqvarna mowers at Home Depot that had Kohler engines on them. Just under $200.
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So what I'm reading here is that if our currently young children were to visit this site (or one like it) in their adulthood they'd be discussing engines made by Chongqing Bien Technology Co., Ltd., or NINGBO WELLY MACHINERY & TOOLS Co., Ltd, or Zhejiang Ousen Machinery Co., Ltd., or Changzhou Beiante Power Machinery Co., Ltd., or Fuzhou Kapur Power Equipment Co., Ltd., or Taizhou Genour Power Machinery Co., Ltd., or Yongkang Sayes Industry & Trade Co., Ltd., or.....should I go on? We're OK with this? (By the way, I didn't make up any of those names. They're Chinese manufacturers of small engines.) Heaven help us. All to save a buck. That's that many more Americans out of work.
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I can clearly hear my mother, 50 years ago, "eat your food, people are starving in China". Not so much anymore, they're eatingour, lunch.
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That's that many more Americans out of work.
Canadians too.
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Well.... I believe the ever expanding use of automation, coupled with the outsourcing of domestic production, has accounted for far more American jobs being lost than some competition from a Chinese engine.

Perhaps the increase in importation has resulted in additional jobs being created in the US Customs, and/or shipping arenas? And all those Chinese engines are going to need a distribution network, bound to be some jobs created there. Those engines suffer from fuel related issues the same as our beloved American engines do, Somebody has to work on them, and provide replacement parts (subassemblies, usually), sounds like an opportunity for more work...

I know this is an Antique engine board, and it's fine to lament the passing of the good ole' days, when Kohlers were made of cast iron , engines had points, and carburetors had two adjustment screws, BUT... the simple truth is, that won't pay the bills.

Times are tight....saving money by purchasing an offshore engine, or making money by performing service and repair on that same engine, (guilty!), just makes sense for some people.
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So what I'm reading here is that if our currently young children were to visit this site (or one like it) in their adulthood they'd be discussing engines made by Chongqing Bien Technology Co., Ltd., or NINGBO WELLY MACHINERY & TOOLS Co., Ltd, or Zhejiang Ousen Machinery Co., Ltd., or Changzhou Beiante Power Machinery Co., Ltd., or Fuzhou Kapur Power Equipment Co., Ltd., or Taizhou Genour Power Machinery Co., Ltd., or Yongkang Sayes Industry & Trade Co., Ltd., or.....should I go on? We're OK with this? (By the way, I didn't make up any of those names. They're Chinese manufacturers of small engines.) Heaven help us. All to save a buck. That's that many more Americans out of work.
Do something about it America, it happened over here in the UK decades ago and it won't just be your engines!
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I had one of these clones on my mini bike ( Baja MB 165 ). It had TONS of issues but it did have lots of hours on it. I've worked on these more than anything and I can say, you take a chance when buying one if it will last or not. I bought the minibike used because it was a steal and it just happened to have one on it already. I replaced it with a real Honda GX160 ASAP. Lets just say you wouldnt see me buying a new one. I would save my money or buy a used Honda off craigslist. I got mine never had gas or oil in it for $120 off of CL. So its well worth the money to get a real Honda. But i've noticed its either a love or hate engine. Its your choice. I would say temperary uses the clone would be most cost effective but if you need an engine that will last and you can depend on get a Honda.
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Earlier this year I was amazed to see Husqvarna mowers at Home Depot that had Kohler engines on them. Just under $200.
That kolher is a Chinese built engine. Bought one last fall of CL for 35 dollars, hard starting, but runs pretty good.
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Just got a couple of 4-stroke Ryobi weedeater powerheads from a store return item liquidator (TaddWholesale - through eBay). Listing said 'No compression'. I found just the opposite - Would not pull over. Reason: Cylinders full of oil. Pulled the sparkplugs and pulled through several times to clear the oil from the cylinders, cleaned the plug off and both fired right up and sounded healthy. Paid $40 each including shipping. Interesting engines - Cog-belt driven overhead cam. Of course, they are made in China. Once again, I made a pretty good score because the average consumer has no idea how things work (or even how they are supposed to...)
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Not just engines. Some years back I worked across the street from the Timken Bearing world headquarters in the U.S. I needed a couple of thrust bearings and went to a local bearingdistributor. "You want good ones or cheap ones" the clerk asked. "Tell me about them" I replied. "Good ones come from Romania, cheap ones from China".
That's the way it is.
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