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My first project: Briggs and Stratton 4


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Old 08-06-2016, 01:49:56 AM
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Today I met the mythical engine shaman of the desert, Buster Brown, and he showed me around his spread. At the end of the visit, when I was getting ready to head out, he offered me a project to start my collection/restoration hobby with at a price I couldn't refuse.

We are unsure exactly what model it is, but it has a cast iron shroud and the tank has a 4 Briggs and Stratton decal.

I brought it home and after dinner decided to hose it off a bit to remove some of the vintage desert deposits and maybe find some markings to identify it.

No luck on the ID, so maybe someone can give me a better idea of what this critter is.

Interesting to note, after we loaded it in my truck, I spun the starter cup and we spoke how the compression seemed a little weak, however, after hosing it off, I spun the starter cup again and saw a lot of bubbles coming out from around the spark plug... The compression may be better than we thought.
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Old 08-06-2016, 02:10:11 AM
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Default Re: My first project: Briggs and Stratton 4

I'm thinking Model A. But just a guess. I would guess that the "4" was originally "4 Cycle".
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Old 08-06-2016, 02:15:53 AM
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Default Re: My first project: Briggs and Stratton 4

Vanman,

Thanks for the reply, and I agree with you...

I just start searching the internet through brute force and ignorance and found this:


Model A
Horizontal shaft,4 cycle,round fuel tank,float carburetor
oil bath air filter
horse power 2.45 @ 3200 rpm.
shipping weight94 lbs.


Looks like my project
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Old 08-06-2016, 08:09:41 PM
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Default Re: My first project: Briggs and Stratton 4

For reasons I can't quite put my finger on, I'm thinking a model B rather than an A. Just seems bigger somehow. Don't be overly concerned at this point about low compression. The oil drips down over time and leaves everything bone-dry. Once the oil gets up and splashing around, the compression often comes back with a vengeance. That's a nice engine to start your hobby with.
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A model B has a removable side plate on the back side of the block and a model A does not.
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Default Re: My first project: Briggs and Stratton 4

Thanks for the replies.

There are 2 holes where the ID plate should be, and the plate is history.

I've been doing a bit to it today. Got the tank off, which has some dents, but the most concerning one is the hit on the end cap seam.

Also pulled the small, non-original warp around heat shield off . I plane to remove the shroud next and pull the flywheel to see what shape the magnito is in.

Sorry for the play-by-play, as this this something you all have probably read/seen a million times.
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Default Re: My first project: Briggs and Stratton 4

Oh, don't apologize! This stuff is why we're all here!

I don't know why those cylinder shields are so often missing! But otherwise yours looks in quite good condition.

I don't have an A, but do have a B, and it has the wrong carb- and someone notched the cast iron blower housing to make it fit, it has the wrong- bastardized- gas tank bracket, no air cleaner, no breather cap, and it's been painted in carnival colors!

I was thinking yours was an A since it looks more "squat" than my B. Here's a video of mine earning it's living during a power failure, you can get a good look at the engine towards the end:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueywqrf8xP0
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Default Re: My first project: Briggs and Stratton 4

Vanman,

Great running engine. Does your blown shroud tag say Kohler on it?

I have been cleaning as I pull parts to check it out.

I was surprised to pull the spark plug and for grins I put the plug on the head, connected the wire, and gave the flywheel a spin and received a spark.

The Autolite B-7 has seen better days, but a spark was a good sign. Also cleans the 1/4" of crust the started life as gasoline a few years ago.
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Default Re: My first project: Briggs and Stratton 4

I meant to say Blower Shroud...

But since there is no Edit option....

Now I realize it is a Kohler Generator with a Briggs Model B Engine?
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Default Re: My first project: Briggs and Stratton 4

FYI the model A has 6 head bolts, the model B has 7
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