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My New Lister 5hp


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Old 04-24-2012, 11:57:24 AM
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Default My New Lister 5hp

I got 2 new engines at the Laurel show this weekend. Here are some pictures of the lister. Do not know much about a lister. Are there manuals available that I can purchase or down load. It is a 5hp 76L serial # 58xx. Any information on this engine will be very appricated. Bill K

I will do more pictures later when the sun is better.
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Default Re: My New Lister 5hp

I think the 'ball' hopper variant is quite rare and desirable. You see a lot of them identical more or less but tank cooled, weren't they either made or sold in large (relatively) quantities in Canada with the 'ball' hopper. I'm not well read on English engines especially Listers although I do have one. A Lister 'A' which is smaller and has a big hopper just like a Novo, it has the same carb as your engine and is similar in design. Very Heavy! But they run nice.

You can definitely get manuals, i'm sure there on the internet somewhere. I'll try track them down.

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If you go to this link, http://www.internalfire.com/index.ph...36ba4be2aabe70 register on the right hand side you can download the manual. It is the Lister > L manual and parts list which you want I think. You can buy paper copies easily and cheaply too on UK ebay, Joe.
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I lost the sun glare so I took some more pictures. I have been working today on getting it mounted to the trailer. I got the pipes cut and holes drilled in the pipes. I also got the trailer marked but I have not drilled the trailer yet. Bill K
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And 3 more pictures. Bill K
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Nice! It took ALL I had to keep from posting pics while it was in my possession for a day.... Sure hope to see it run this weekend, if u need anything call me friend.
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Thanks again for bring it home for me. Bill K
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Very nice engine! They run really smooth and quiet. We have 2 ball hoppers and a twin L tank cooled, not nearly as pretty though.

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Yes. They are very nice runners.

Lister made 5 sizes with the ball hopper configuration. H 2hp, J 3hp, L 5hp, N 7hp and the R 9hp.

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Please explain why an oiler above the drain spiggit.also mine has a valve on the left side of the engine that I use for a compression release. On my engine their is also two more blaked out casting plugs on the right and left sides that are slightly lower than the coolant drain spiggit, looks like they were capped off during the ram up. As to the use of a oiler I personally don`t think it is required. Every time I start my engine a fair amount of oil is expelled from the decompression valve, so you have to ask those stand clear or you will be blessed and for ever will have to have a old engine of your own. Not a bad thing.
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pretty sure an oiler is not required on them check at internalfire.com they should have most of your answers on these engines
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Yes, these engines are very rare. There are two variants of it, a flick mag and a rotary mag. The flick type are much rarer like mine. There should also be no oiler for the cylinder. The oil gets up there by splashing from the crank shaft.

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Could you take a close up of the water drain valve? I am confused on how that goes in. My port has no threads for it.
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Lister's are very good engines, very reliable and gave good service for a long time.
The first L was made in 1909 and continued until the 1940's with out any major changes except the magneto change about 1920 from a flick mag to a rotary mag and the removable combustion head came in sometime about the same time. I don't know if the ball tops had the "combustion" head. The first ones were 4hp and the latest ones were 9 hp.
The Ball tops sometimes known as Canadian hopper's were made for the Canadian market so some would have found their way into the US, apart from a few in England they are not found any where else.
The Lister engines were ahead of their time, and being a very reliable engine they were sold in large numbers and exported to a lot of countries. A lot have survived so they are common.
Lister's would be one of the best engines ever made.
I have several Lister's and even a manual for the Ball top. I don't remember how I came by that as there are none here in NZ.

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Default Re: My New Lister 5hp

Garage Gnome; Here is the water drain. I also have a plug on 2 of the other 3 sides that look they also go to the water jacket. What goes where the oiler is. Is that by any chance the compression release or just another plug. Bill K
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Default Re: My New Lister 5hp

I should make it a little more clear. it was the L that increased in Hp up to 9hp. As already pointed out there were other models ranging from H to R with the L probably the most common
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You're going to love running that lister. I've got a 5 HP "L" model too, and it's the sweetest running engine I have. Just prime it, open the compression release, and turn it over. Starts in 2 or 3 turns. Have fun!
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The part I love most about mine is the way it starts. It kinda of puffs some smoke out of the compression release and then starts spinning by itself.

Thanks for those close ups. Mine has no threads in the port for some reason. I'll have to get a pipe tap and fix that.

Here's my compression release. I think where your oiler is is where that is supposed to go.

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Hi Bill,
These engines don't have an oiler and as already mentioned that will be where the decompression tap should be. It is normally on the side.
The manual says that they come with a special cover so that the hopper can be removed in hot weather and converted to a tank cooled. It says the drain tap can be removed and replaced with pipe fittings. The other plugs in the water jacket can also be used if it is necessary to do the pipe work out the side
The cylinder is lubricated by the splash method and the oil pump feeds the main bearings.
What is the serial number I may be able to give you an approximate date.
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Here is the relevant pages from the early Book 26 that shows the compression release tap:







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