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Old 12-11-2018, 06:02:06 PM
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Default Toys that are no longer 'fun' (according to the PC Police)

Hello all
I know we make fun of New Zealand but I found something that New Zealand made which would have been fun.
I know it's PC bad to even mention these things now but bad luck. I know a lot of us had similar and had hours of fun with them. All with out killing someone or turning into a serial killer. So thanks New Zealand. Do you remember these Merv C?
To say I was surprised and happy when I found this was an understatement. When the bloke said he had the advertising card for it as well was a shock.
To say I swapped 2 garden chairs I found in a council clean up day, which also just happened to be sitting on top of the trailer, for them was just the icing on the cake. It saved me from pulling the chairs all apart to paint them.
On the advertising card you can see a grey sticker covering, what I assume to be, the old pre decimal price tag. So would it be safe to assume 1965-66 build date?

I didn't have one of these as a kid but I had a cast pig metal spud gun. It was good fun with orange peel or the hard soap out of mum's laundry. I might have to search for a spud gun now.

So what are your toys you really shouldn't admit to have or show?

Cheers Scott
PS: They must have been rich in new Zealand. They had a TV to watch it seems.



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My Red rider carbine BB gun now today that is probably a no no i would make what is called a Sling Shot it would be a no no today i made my own bow and arrow and these were lethal i would hunt rabbits
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Since smoking is such a No-No, I guess a squirt cigarette would probably not be, pc.....
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do what you want and the hell with everybody else, life is short, tuff crap for them...
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Old 12-12-2018, 02:11:09 AM
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Scott,
We didn't have a TV then and I have no recollection of that toy. but it sure looked like fun.
In my childhood we had cap guns and played Cowboys and Indians. Probably inspired by Hopalong Cassidy and The Lone Ranger etc films.

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Old 12-12-2018, 04:31:32 AM
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Like Merv I have no recollection of that type of BB pellet. How do you know they are from New Zealand Scotty?
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Old 12-12-2018, 08:38:25 AM
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Lawn darts. We used to heave them over the house at each other.
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Old 12-12-2018, 03:43:48 PM
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I also did not have one of those pellet guns, but I did have plenty of lead soldiers and cowboys & indians, but a far as cap guns goes I loved hem. By the time I was a teenager I had a collection of ten early military rifles and bayonets as well as quite old pistols etc.
That collection grew very fast after I was earning a weekly wage. All gone now though but the original Daisy Air Rifle are a very valuable collector item today. Toy collectors would love to get hold of that Pellet gun today Scotty Cheers John
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Old 12-12-2018, 05:08:22 PM
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Lots of 'toys' I had when I was a kid, would be outlawed today. For instance - Buddy L rocket launcher. it would layunch a misile that looked like a 50 cal military round with fins. depending on which spring (indoor or outdoor) you put in it, the 'rocket would go about 5 feet or 10 feet, when 'launched. my grand pa thought that was wimpy, so he put his own spring in it. The 'missile' went 10 feet and THRU a 1/4" thick plate glass window, leaving a neat 3/4" hole in the glass. Another good one was a cap gun that shot plastic bullets You put the bullet in the cartridge and then placed a gren round stick on cap onto the load. fill up the 6 holes in the cylinder and have at it. sounded like a 45 and the muzzle flash was pretty realistic too. great fun until I set moms curtains on fire with the muzzle blast (I had doubled up on the caps)! No cat was safe, while we were 'hunting'. Last but not least - the Gilbert science kit. All kinds of neat chemicals, and instructions on how to kame things blow up! Nitric acid and glycerine ("keep cool and do not shake the test tube"). Picric acid. not too bad in liquid form, but unstable as hell when it dried out. Charcoal, sulfur and bat dung. BOOM! AHHH, those were the days!

The ad at the beginning of this thread reminds me of my son's "Air Soft" gun. Re-usable plastic pellets that HURT if you got hit. Within 20 feet, the pellets would penetrate skin!
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Like Merv I have no recollection of that type of BB pellet. How do you know they are from New Zealand Scotty?
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Hello Trev.
The Made in New Zealand with the Kiwi under the trigger is a give-a-way. A bit hard to see in the picture.

We also didn't have TV in the 60's. I rang mum up. she said it was about 1972 before we had a telly. We didn't go to the movies very much either. I remember going to "Jungle Book" in Murwillumbah and "Chitty Chitty Bang Bang" in Lismore and that was about it until well into High School. Oh, "Jaws" at the Alstonville drive in.
We didn't do much of the cowboys and indians thing. We explored a lot in building sites, rubbish piles and dumps. We made billycarts, shangais and other great stuff from what we could find. I don't know how many Qualcast mowers we parted out for the wheels. Qualcast wheels on a gravel road did not lend themselves to a smooth ride I can tell you.

We got our edumication from comics. Phantom, Archie and Superman were in our toys box. We got them secondhand from the army disposal in Keen St Lismore for 5c each. A returned Coke bottle was 10c.
Our toy box (3 boys) was a big cardboard Corn Flakes box. The one the individual packets came in. Mum didn't have problems with toys laying about. We didn't have many to lay about.

Cheers Scott



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Toy collectors would love to get hold of that Pellet gun today Scotty Cheers John
There were actually 2 guns there John. When I go back through I'll see if the other is still there. I know a bloke and his bride who would might like them. Sadly I had nothing else to swap or much cash when I found these. They were one of those finds you find when your least expecting a find. I was so glad they wanted a couple garden chairs I found in a council clean up to get what I got.

Sad thing is we have to build a pool room 'cause this find is straight to the pool room.

Cheers Scott
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Old 12-13-2018, 12:53:09 AM
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Bring back the good old 'sling shot'. They were so much fun and was good for any annoying neighbour.

Sounds like Onan maybe Elmer Fud in disguise using the toys to 'hunt wabbits'. I like it a lot.

Could not play 'Cowboys and Indians when I was growing up in Sydney. There was no Indians to shoot at! Not the case now apparently.
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Scotty,
I don't think that pallet gun is not as old as you you think. Trev may remember, but I think the 'Kiwi Made' logo only cane out in the late 1980's. Our kids were young then But I still don't remember that toy. Our kids didn't have them.

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Scotty,
I don't think that pallet gun is not as old as you you think. Trev may remember, but I think the 'Kiwi Made' logo only cane out in the late 1980's.
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Hello Merv.
Even in the late 80's these guns would have been a no no wouldn't they?
I did find a history of the Kiwi made logo and the logo used on the gun does not seem to appear. Maybe this logo was before the trademark ones?
https://buynz.org.nz/Trademark-History/7321/

I did have a bit of a look at the history of Lincoln International and in 1983-4 they were merged with SCOTT GROUP LTD AND P.C.HENDERSON NZ LTD.

Here is a Batman gun marketed by Lincoln with the Kiwi mark said to be from 1966. it has the Kiwi mark and blister packed.
http://www.danefield.com/data/displa..._display_media
I also found where Lincoln moved production to Taiwan in the mid 60's and incorporated the Made in Taiwan into packaging.
http://toysnz.com/LincolnToysOfNewZealand

The plot thickens

Cheers Scott
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Hello Merv.
Even in the late 80's these guns would have been a no no wouldn't they?
I did find a history of the Kiwi made logo and the logo used on the gun does not seem to appear. Maybe this logo was before the trademark ones?
https://buynz.org.nz/Trademark-History/7321/

I did have a bit of a look at the history of Lincoln International and in 1983-4 they were merged with SCOTT GROUP LTD AND P.C.HENDERSON NZ LTD.

Here is a Batman gun marketed by Lincoln with the Kiwi mark said to be from 1966. it has the Kiwi mark and blister pack

The plot thickens

Cheers Scott
Interesting information there.
I can't offer any more info. I did have the feeling that only the stylized Kiwi was trademarked but I could be wrong on that. Back then I was involved in a national organization that also used a similar stylized Kiwi on its letterhead that turned out to be in breach of the trademark but a slight alteration to the kiwi made it OK. I think they still use it.

The gun probably was OK back then. Only a few years ago one of my grandchildren had a machine gun that fired sponge plastic bullets he had a lot of fun with that.

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"PC Police" ??? Don't you mean "Lawyers"?

After someone told my parents that lead was bad for kids, they took away my toy soldier lead casting kit, and bought me a pot-metal casting kit.. Not lead, but maybe 8-year-olds shouldn't be melting metal in the kitchen And then our lite-brite melted because someone put a 200W bulb in it.. Pretty sure that's why my Sister's easy-bake oven caught fire..

But I guess you're right.. When we were kids and hurt ourselves with dangerous toys, parents would just say "be more careful next time"..

But we weren't.. We used to take turns riding the rocking horse down the staircase

And then we became teenagers... ANYTHING can be dangerous, just takes a bit of ingenuity..
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Since smoking is such a No-No, I guess a squirt cigarette would probably not be, pc.....
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In the 1970's we could buy little explosive pellets made to be stuffed into the end of a cigarette, they were good for a nasty surprise

Most of the stuff I recall from the Joke Shop seemed fairly harmless, stink bombs, ten cent coin with nail so you could fix it to the floor etc....

In the 1960's we were given shanghai's by an Uncle which were truly lethal. They had a cast aluminium handle with proper moulded rubber sling. Unfortunately, the rubber didn't last very long before it broke, so it was back to inner tubes and the like.
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[QUOTE=Peter Short;1537220]In the 1970's we could buy little explosive pellets made to be stuffed into the end of a cigarette, they were good for a nasty surprise

We used to take a buddy's cig out of the pack remove about 1/4" of tobacco then put some magnesium powder in. Just a touch, then carefully tamp the tobacco back in.

Sit around for a while anticipating the flash in about 15 seconds. Oh dang, he didn't get the loaded one. Eventually he would and we got great laughs out of that trick. Sadistic bastards we were.

Had it pulled on me a couple times but wised up and inspected the end of the cigs whenever I was with those guys.
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I rather think the current nerf guns kids have are more interesting/powerful than the old BBs, even if you can't actually do any harm with them...

I wonder how much of the "why did the nanny state get rid of these dangerous toys we had as kids?" crowd also think that kids these days are all little shits with no sense of responsibility who would wreak havoc with said toys
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I rather think the current nerf guns kids have are more interesting/powerful than the old BBs, even if you can't actually do any harm with them...

I wonder how much of the "why did the nanny state get rid of these dangerous toys we had as kids?" crowd also think that kids these days are all little shits with no sense of responsibility who would wreak havoc with said toys
I had a look at some of the nerf guns and they would be great fun alright. I think their saving grace is that they don't look like guns that fire bullets otherwise the fun police would have them banned.
If anything, I reckon playing with these sorts of toys give a sense of responsibility. The first one would be picking up after yourself. If you don't then there's no ammo to fire.
The best thing is kids are running around with Nerf guns. No screens involved.
Kids are born to play. Let them run, skip, fall, get scars and the rest. It's a learning curve. You don't know what you can't do until you fail trying.

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I agree Scotty! As a kid who spent too much time in front of a screen as a teenager, I'm very careful with what I let my kids spend time doing! Plenty of time helping grandparents on the farm, kicking the footy, looking for wildlife as well as playing some parent-approved video games or watching ABC for some quiet time! It's horrible to see parents the same age as me just letting their kids waste away in front of a screen for hours just because it keeps them shut up. Even more so for the parents who just let their kids have unsupervised and unrestricted internet access, there's all sorts of terrible stuff they shouldn't have free reign to be accessing! (I'd know, I was doing some of that myself 15 years ago...)
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