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Onan 12.5 JC Should I or shouldn't I?


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Old 09-09-2017, 09:48:22 PM
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Here is the build sheet.
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Only you can decide if you should buy it. He will probably take $1K for it if you show up with cash and a trailer.

Wayne I was going to do the same thing to a seller but park my truck and trailer out of sight so as not to show my eagerness,

Do you think the trailer increases your bargaining power ?
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Old 09-09-2017, 10:25:54 PM
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Wayne...Do you think the trailer increases your bargaining power ?
It depends.

IF the seller is one of those who would rather wait 6 months to try and get another $50, probably not.

IF the seller is one whose wife has said "get rid of that thing...", the mentioned wife is there, and you show up with a trailer and cash- almost certainly.

I was in the midst of negotiations for a BGE once (truck ready to haul), while the wife/GF (?) looked on. I had made my last offer and turned to leave when the young woman stepped in and said "sold", and put out HER hand for the cash- the seller just shrugged and started getting it ready to load.

To me a person who shows up with a truck/trailer and ability to load it up immediately is a serious buyer; but on the other hand, isn't likely to make a return trip. So I generally offer the best deal I can, if I want to sell.
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When I bought my 7NHM guy wanted $400, it wouldn't make AC and didn't really run for all the hunting and stalling, had to hot wire it even. I did some electrical tests on genhead and it showed ~good, used meter, not a light bulb that he could see. Wasn't sure engine was good but finally I saw it do something that showed it was good. I offered $200 guy, said no. I packed up my tools into car and stopped talking about gen. And we chatted for a while about his other MANY "projects" in his yard, that he said he likely will never get to. Said I have to leave it's a 2 hour drive, and offered $100, he said no he'll use engine for a log splitter that I saw nearby. I said 200 he agreed. Cleaned the plugged carb ran perfect , except needs a choke heater, and a new AC voltage reg.

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At this point OldPart you are the driver. If you haven't replied one way or another I would tell him that you tried to squeeze another $200 from the wife but she wouldn't budge. Tell him you have reluctantly been looking at a Generac 13000 and it looks like that is the way that you will have to go.Thank him for remembering you and complement his generator . Wait one day. If he doesn't get back to you , you can either find $200 more dollars or buy the "fake" Generac.

The Onan will still be there.
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38 year old set. Not a trifuel. Can't/won't demonstrate it to run and make power. Your cost to bring propane to it. Point all this out to seller. Make sure the engine isn't locked up. Looks like the muffler is laying on top of the set in one of the pictures.
$1000 is a lot to potentially lose if it turns out to be a turkey.
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Thanks to all for the advice. I don't plan to spend more than $1K. I don't plan to drive there with him thinking I'll spend more than that. If I can turn it over and the oil is reasonably clean I'll offer $800 since I need a transfer switch, but I'll take it for a thousand. I wish it were a 15; and I wish it were a magneciter, but I think this will work for my needs. We have my wife's parents living with us. Our power rarely goes off but it has gone off for a short time twice in the year plus that they have been here. Having six Onans and none hooked up permanently does not impress them.
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...We have my wife's parents living with us....Having six Onans and none hooked up permanently does not impress them.
I they want to be impressed, let them supply the $1K...
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As I've said on this forum many times, buying a non running generator, what I like to call a "cold hunk of metal sitting on the ground" is like buying a pig in a poke. You may get lucky, and you may not. And if you don't get lucky, the seller is going to shrug his shoulders and say something like "well... it DID run good". If the seller wants much more than scrap pricing, it's up to him to demonstrate to you, the buyer, that you are buying more than a piece of junk.
If you are going to buy a used car, wouldn't you want to take it for a drive? If you are buying a used TV, wouldn't you want to turn it on and check the picture? Why should it be any different for a generator? He didn't take the Garretson so he can't show it running? That's his problem, not yours.
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Would be suspious that he didn't know enough to take the Garretson regulator.

For $1000 he's got to show you it runs and makes AC.

If he has your phone number I'ld let him sit with it for a month, at $1000 and not running people will not be beating a path to his door. Then offer $500-700 if your willing to lose the money if it's bad.

Can't get all worked up about one $$$$$$$ gen, there will be others for sale.

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