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Default Re: Restoration of 1918 Stewart Truck

Troy just a curious question about the continental in the Stewart what was the idler timing gear made of, between the cam and the accessory drive?
Ours in the J4 was some kind of Bakelite fiber and was what gave up when they quit using the truck.
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The timing gear you are wondering about on my continental engine is made of steel.

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Ours in the J4 was some kind of Bakelite fiber and was what gave up when they quit using the truck.
The cam gear on my 37 Ford is some kind of a fiber gear too.

So Far, So Good. Only has 33,??? miles on it but at 77 years old I can only guess at how much longer it may go.

Hope I didn't Jinx it by saying that.
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Troy, Thanks for posting the gears on your engine. the J4 has an extra gear between the cam and the accessory shaft. which was the fiber gear.
The restoration is looking good, It is good to see the old trucks being restored.
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Old 08-18-2014, 03:55:09 PM
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In the mist of working on the wheels of the Stewart truck, I was asked by my girl friend if I could rework the wheels on her mule show cart. I got one done and hope to have the second one done by this weekend. Then I also should be ready to put a coat of paint on my Stewart wheel this evening.
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Sorry everyone about being in and out so much on the restoration, I have had a very busy summer with a lot of shows and other things going, but they are finally starting to slow down. I was also finally able to make some time to get my pictures uploaded too. Two weeks ago I headed over to Bixby, MN to do some power washing and sand blasting. I got the Stewart power washed before lunch, then after lunch it had dried enough to get it sand blasted. The wheels were taken off since they are all completely done and I didn't want to wreck my nice paint job. The first picture is before the sand blasting and the rest are during it and after. Next will be to get the frame painted very soon.
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The Stewart frame got brought back to Roger's garage after sand blasting. Today we got the entire frame covered with a primer coat of paint. Hopefully this week the other colors can start appearing on the frame too.

The brass tag is located down around the axle that i found while pressure washing and caught before I hit it with the sand blaster.
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IT'S RED

Finally the frame is painted and looking pretty good!!!
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Made a few brackets for the truck on Saturday and also made a bracket to mount the bed of the truck to the frame. One of them was missing. We did all the bending and riveted it to the truck frame.
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Put the final coat of RED on Stewart Truck Frame and also did some rivet replacing.

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Headed over to see the Big 4 tractors near Blooming Prairie, MN yesterday morning and we decided to get a steam engine going that had been sitting in the corner of his shop. We got it operating on compressed very nicely. Then when Roger and I got back to his shop yesterday afternoon we mounted the steering essential parts on the frame and did some touch up painting. Hopefully this week I'll have a foam cut-out of my steering wheel that I am making in college.
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Started making a prototype steering wheel. Used the CNC router in college and cut out a prototype. It went well and hopefully soon we will be making more!
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The front bumper is made for the Stewart. We bent the channel iron cold using a hydraulic press, a piece of round stock and a 5/16" plate. The round stock worked well, but we ended up with little divets in it where it squished the edges. The flat plate of steel spread the weight out just enough that those disappeared. We also had to heat up and bend the flat pieces of steel that mount it to the frame of the truck. It is fitted and looks good All I need to do now is get it cleaned up and get some paint on it.
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Well we have been busy again! There is hard rubber tires with wood spoke wheels on the my Stewart Truck. Re-rubbering the wheels is expensive for me at this point in my life and I simply can't afford it. So instead of re-rubbering the wheels, we drilled each of the wheels and placed 3/8" lag bolts through the hard rubber and into the wood spoke.

Before the process was started we inspected each wheel very close, and determined that the hard rubber is still tight to the rim as of now, but the whole reason we are putting the lag bolts in the wheels is to prevent this from happening. The wheels after sitting for many years and then you drive them, they can loosen and the rubber could peel off if you turn a corner sharp or go up a steep grade. There have been other trucks where this has happened and the wheels had to be re-rubbered.

The first step of this whole process was to build a jig to hold the wheels in the drill press. Next we used a 7/8" wood forstner bit to cut about 3/4" into the rubber on the face of the wheel. Then we used a 3/8" forstner bit to drill the rubber down to the steel rim of the wheel. We changed bits again to a regular 3/8" drill bit and we drilled through the 1/2" of steel and after going through the steel we changed yet again and used a 9/32" drill to drill into the wood spoke as far as we could reach for the threads of the lag bolt. We needed to use forstner bits to cut the rubber properly for the lag bolt and washer to fit.
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What places do this rerubbering? I'm only aware of Hansen wheel and wagon. Also did you happen to get a quote. I was always curios on the price.
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This has been a most interesting story so far, and gives me hope we may be able to restore a basket case Corbitt of pre-1920 vintage here is Australia. It uses the Continental N engine also, and many other similarities.
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Amazing job so far! Subscribed to watch the progress! I'd love to rebuild an antique like this someday.
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Hansen wheel does re-rubbering, but Terra Turf Tire also does it too. I got a quote from them and to do all four wheels it would be $2000 to $2500 after all shipping costs were paid. I did think about doing it, but do not have the funds at the moment...maybe someday.

Here is a link to their site too.
http://terraturftires.com/

Also THANK YOU ALL for the support and comments you have been giving us, its nice to know that people enjoy seeing an antique like this being taken care!!
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Hey Troy, the days are passing by and the Root River show is getting closer by the minute. Just wondering how things are progressing on the Stewart? We haven't seen an update lately. I know that you found an IHC toy to play with. You haven't been distracted too much have you???? Hope to see you with the truck in les than a month...

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I am going to try to get the truck most of the way put back together and painted for the show. I am not sure if the truck will be running, it will all depend on how much I can get done in a week. Right now I am with my family out in Breckenridge, Colorado enjoying a vacation. Hopefully I can get the weaver crane cleaned up and painted to put on the truck and then also get the cowl repaired and painted. If I get lucky, I could get the fenders and radiator also put back on. Time will only tell, but I sure am going to push for it to be together by show time.

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