Antique Engines and Old Iron
[Home] - [HELP] - [Forums] - [Library] - [Photo Gallery] - [Groups] - [Classified Ads] - [Subscribe] - [Links] - [Books] - [Sponsors] -

Go Back   SmokStak > SmokStak® Vintage Heavy Industrial Equipment > Railroads and Equipment > Railway Speeder Cars
Forgot Password? Join Us!

Notices

Railway Speeder Cars Speeder cars and their engines, rally travel lines, collecting and restoration.

Railway Speeder Cars

Fairbanks Morse Sheffield 40b Restoration


this thread has 64 replies and has been viewed 14570 times

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 10-15-2014, 12:49:04 PM
wise65vw wise65vw is offline
Registered-I
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eatonville, Washington
Posts: 57
Thanks: 7
Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts
Default Fairbanks Morse Sheffield 40b Restoration

Since you don't see these every day, I figured I'd show off the Fairbanks Morse engine I'm restoring for a Sheffield 40b railroad heavy section car. The engine was complete when I started, the car itself was pretty banged up. I'll just stick to the engine on here unless someone wants me to post some pics of the car as work on it progresses. I started with a complete teardown and cleaning, and have been working toward reassembling it entirely, although I'm not quite finished with it. The cam followers were the only real problem on this thing, as all four were frozen in the cast iron top of the block. A little heat and some penetrant and all was well.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	40b-3.jpg
Views:	592
Size:	82.0 KB
ID:	208567   Click image for larger version

Name:	40b-15.jpg
Views:	422
Size:	93.4 KB
ID:	208568   Click image for larger version

Name:	40b-26.jpg
Views:	437
Size:	82.7 KB
ID:	208569   Click image for larger version

Name:	40b-24.jpg
Views:	418
Size:	77.6 KB
ID:	208570  

Reply With Quote
The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to wise65vw For This Post:
Sponsored Links
  #2  
Old 10-15-2014, 12:58:47 PM
wise65vw wise65vw is offline
Registered-I
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eatonville, Washington
Posts: 57
Thanks: 7
Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse Sheffield 40b Restoration

So after pretty much everything was cleaned, I covered it in rust converting metal primer (great stuff). The next step was to use some high heat paint from Napa to brighten up the exterior. I was hesitant about using white at first, but I'm quite happy with the results, even if they don't last more than a month. I eventually mocked up most of the engine with the pushrods n' such test see how everything went together. Until I finish the magneto, I won't be able to bolt the top down.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	40b-37.jpg
Views:	196
Size:	43.0 KB
ID:	208571   Click image for larger version

Name:	40b-25.jpg
Views:	204
Size:	67.1 KB
ID:	208572   Click image for larger version

Name:	101_0249.jpg
Views:	217
Size:	59.0 KB
ID:	208573   Click image for larger version

Name:	0921141907.jpg
Views:	265
Size:	48.9 KB
ID:	208574  

Reply With Quote
The Following 4 Users Say Thank You to wise65vw For This Post:
  #3  
Old 10-15-2014, 10:02:28 PM
Mitch Malcolm Mitch Malcolm is offline
Banner Sponsor
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Ottertail, Minnesota, USA
Posts: 526
Thanks: 637
Thanked 478 Times in 272 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse Sheffield 40b Restoration

Interesting pictures I have one also what carb is on yours mine is missing? Thanks, Mitch
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-15-2014, 11:02:52 PM
wise65vw wise65vw is offline
Registered-I
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eatonville, Washington
Posts: 57
Thanks: 7
Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse Sheffield 40b Restoration

As far as original specification goes, the Sheffield manual lists the engine as having a 1" diameter Mac carburetor. However, I have never been able to find one on the internet. The car I'm working on has a "New Holley"model 730-a (also impossible to find online). I've also seen them with Zenith carburetors. Basically, anything with the right flange size could be used. Updraft, manual choke...it doesn't need anything fancy. Also, the intake manifold is actually threaded together at the carburetor flange, so it can be rotated to accept a different style if necessary. Hope that helps!
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-15-2014, 11:07:10 PM
Clark Bigger Clark Bigger is offline
Registered-III
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: trout run PA usa
Posts: 645
Thanks: 207
Thanked 195 Times in 128 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse Sheffield 40b Restoration

I have ridden on one, nice ride
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-15-2014, 11:14:41 PM
wise65vw wise65vw is offline
Registered-I
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eatonville, Washington
Posts: 57
Thanks: 7
Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse Sheffield 40b Restoration

Here's some photos to give you an idea.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	101_0257.jpg
Views:	224
Size:	88.7 KB
ID:	208624   Click image for larger version

Name:	101_0267.jpg
Views:	232
Size:	54.8 KB
ID:	208625   Click image for larger version

Name:	101_0266.jpg
Views:	212
Size:	51.8 KB
ID:	208626  
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 10-15-2014, 11:28:09 PM
wise65vw wise65vw is offline
Registered-I
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eatonville, Washington
Posts: 57
Thanks: 7
Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse Sheffield 40b Restoration

...And today I finally got the rest of the new hardware for the magneto. Gotta love shiny clean stuff. I do still need to repair the grounding spring on the points cover, though.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	101_0264.jpg
Views:	232
Size:	53.5 KB
ID:	208627   Click image for larger version

Name:	101_0265.jpg
Views:	210
Size:	67.4 KB
ID:	208628  
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 10-17-2014, 11:59:01 PM
wise65vw wise65vw is offline
Registered-I
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eatonville, Washington
Posts: 57
Thanks: 7
Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse Sheffield 40b Restoration

I forgot to mention that the original Mac carburetor was a model 700-F, in case you were wondering Mr. Malcom.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 10-23-2014, 09:35:47 PM
Dwayne Fuller's Avatar
Dwayne Fuller Dwayne Fuller is offline
Subscriber
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Longview, Texas, USA
Posts: 2,090
Thanks: 3,255
Thanked 3,438 Times in 993 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse Sheffield 40b Restoration

Thanks for all the photos. I have an engine like that and it is missing the mag. Any ideal where I can source a mag? What is the model/number of the mag?
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 10-27-2014, 03:25:42 PM
wise65vw wise65vw is offline
Registered-I
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eatonville, Washington
Posts: 57
Thanks: 7
Thanked 25 Times in 15 Posts
Default Re: Fairbanks Morse Sheffield 40b Restoration

As far as the mag goes, it all depends on whether you have an engine with mounting holes for a Splitdorf mag (four holes directly in the top of the case), or for a more modern unit, like a Fairbanks-Morse mag with automatic advance/retard and an impulse drive. The latter is obvious as it uses a pedestal that rises a few inches above the pushrods. If you're looking for a Splitdorf, I'd try finding a Dixie model 40, Aero model 246c or similar. Something with either a two or four spark plug distributor cap. If you get one with four, just ground the two unused ones. If you have the other style, any two-cylinder mag with an impulse drive should work. Another giveaway is that the splitdorf units were driven with a rubber coupling between the mag and the gear shaft. The attached picture shows the latter style.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	P9100002.jpg
Views:	256
Size:	73.2 KB
ID:	209520  
Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to wise65vw For This Post:
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

F o r u m Jump

Similar Threads Chosen at Random
Thread Thread Starter F o r u m Replies Last Post
FairBanks Morse Z 3hp possible restoration Cespilot Antique Gas Engine Discussion 15 09-21-2015 11:23:54 PM
Fairbanks Morse Z on American Restoration Lewis MacRae Antique Gas Engine Discussion 6 03-10-2014 08:05:46 AM
Fairbanks Morse / Sheffield 39 CS Brown Antique Gas Engine Discussion 3 06-29-2012 03:06:43 PM
Fairbanks Morse Z 3hp restoration questions Matt McGivney Antique Gas Engine Discussion 6 10-28-2009 05:50:14 PM
Fairbanks Morse 3HP Z Restoration Harry Antique Gas Engine Discussion 12 05-18-2007 10:27:55 AM


Use "Ctrl" mouse wheel to change screen size.
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:08:53 AM.

Smokstak and Enginads site search!


All use is subject to our TERMS OF SERVICE
SMOKSTAK® is a Registered Trade Mark - A Community of Antique Engine Enthusiasts
Copyright © 2000 - 2016 by Harry Matthews P.O. Box 5612 - Sarasota, FL 34277