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When I first got my wk40 running I put it in the local tractor pull, on steel it was in its own class. I was too excited to know what happened because one spectator asked me later if it had a T/A, must be the clutch slipped at the beginning and then it locked in.
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Goold Shapley & Muir tractors used rack and pinion steering from about 1908. Not sure if others used that?

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That twin power thing on the Massey was just an advertising gimmick! All it was, was just a different throttle setting on the quadrant. The Rumely 6 used that trick as well, it didn't save them from going under either. As for the TA on the Farmall, it was a planetary sun gear set up with mechanically operated dry disc clutch and a roller sprag one way clutch. Kind of a primative shift on the go 2 speed but they worked well for the power of the time. As to the Torque converter drive, they were mostly tried in industrial equipment. Allis was one of the first to develop one for their big dozers in the 40sThen Case used it for a while in the late 50s, but it was fuel hungry to the extreme, it almost put them out of the ag tractor market. It did well in their construction equipment line. The early Nichols Sheppard gas tractors used a massive rack and pinion steering ,It worked but was seriously hard to man handle.

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Hart Parr had the first really independent PTO on their last tractors before merging with Oliver, it took them ( the new Oliver co) over 20 years before they resurrected one on their Fleetline tractors. Harvester put a similar unit on their MTA in the 50s.
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I had read somewhere that the Dain tractor had a shift on the go setup. I would suppose the early friction drives would be considered variable speeds?
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Yes Russ and the old Hart Parrs almost from the beginning had shuttle shift---------move the lever forward to travel ahead and back to reverse, all with out shifting any gears.
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Interestingly enough, that same set up is the basis of the Harvester TA used all those years later.
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The rack and pinion steering on the GS&M Ideal works very easily. They got the gears just right I think. They also used a planetary drive with a simple forward and reverse (plus a road gear through a manually shifted gear). GS&M had patents on the drive, and on the steering too, if memory serves.
Cockshutt, also of Brantford, Ontario, is often credited with the live pto. That is sure to start an argument.
In his memoirs, Cockshutt engineer Ivan MacRae did not claim that Cockshutt was the inventor. He said, "We were the first company to go into volume production ..." He believed, however, that his calling it the "live" pto was the term that stuck. This was all in designing the Cockshutt 30 which was introduced in 1946. The 30 was said to be the first tractor tested at Nebraska with a live pto. Cockshutt was also right in the game with modern hydraulics.
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I would say its been enough years ago for me to not dispute any claims.
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Allis Chalmers had something advertised as a Traction booster. It seemed to me to be a control which pulled the plow up slightly if the drawbar load was too great.
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Yes, traction booster on the AC tractors would float the plow up and use the artificial draft weight to load the tires further for better traction. The WD I have has a screw valve for adjusting to plow work with the traction booster or go the other way for depth control work like cultivation.
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