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KTA M&M Minneapolis Moline Twin City Project


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Default KTA M&M Minneapolis Moline Twin City Project

Can't remember exactly, but i think we have owned this tractor for about 8 years. A friend was going to an auction some distance away and told me there was a KTA on steel there, i told him i would sure be interested. He called me during the sale and told me it was stuck, the front wheels were cobbled up, but it had rear steel. I told him to buy it anyway, and when he got it home this is what we found. Actually had 10-20 IH rears and VERY cobbeled up fronts. Fortunately the front outers turned out to be KTA, but this one waited in the weeds for awhile, an Amish conversion i believe.
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We put diesel fuel in the cylinders over the years, never came loose. I looked for a long time for front cutout hubs and managed to find some last year. As next years' show features M&M i thought i would see just how bad it would be to get it running again.Saturday i started to pull the head, this is what i found at the manifold. Looks like moisture got in the inner two cylinders.
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Pulled the head off and was surprised, some rust and all the diesel was gone. Two stuck valves, one bad and one not so bad. After some cleanup and a little penetrating oil i tapped on the inner two pistons a little bit and it turned over without much trouble.
Looks like so far this will actually be a hone and ring job, drained the oil and found all the diesel fuel.
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Anyway, i sold my favorite plow tractor several years ago, some of our others are now needing transmission work and etc. A friend of mine had a KTA at a plowing event while i had my 10-20 IH. That KTA was impressive to me, reason i wanted one for some time. For thier size the power seems to be pretty substantial, and an easy unit to haul around. I am planning on pulling off those rears and putting on a pair with lugs until i find correct rears. (if ever)
The gas tank looked pretty good until i tapped on a questionable spot. I have a pretty good tank in the shed, but its dented up some awful. May have to repair this one.
Looks like the head gasket is reuseable. The Victor numbers were face down, but this gasket looks to me like it could go either way, wrapped on all edges and copper on both sides.
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Looks like a nice project!
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Just imagine it looking like this.
Except for this one has "Waterloo" on the radiator. Iv'e been undecided about painting it grey or yellow, its a '38 model if i remember right. Sure found traces of grey paint under the yellow, i think at this time of manufacture they at least had red wheels.
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I saw that "Waterloo" KTA sell at auction years ago, and saw it again, a few years later restored as pictured above. My KTA is a 1935, and it too had the early Prairie Gold over top of the Grey. I have a hunch that it was the dealers applying the Prairie Gold to the grey tractors as a way to brighten them up while sitting on the lot beside the newer models.
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Have 1938 KTA and is grey and no PG. Original wheels. I imagine a MM dealer with a a 38 U and UDLX would paint a KTA PG to make a sale. Not many KTA's were left in 1938.







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This tractor is kta306294. I just noticed something, on the waterloo and molinegb pictures the front axle wishbone is short and mounted to the pan. Mine is long and mounted to the bell housing.
Mine is 457 tractors from the end of production and 12 tractors into 1938 production.

Here is one i found for sale in PA right now, look at those rear wheels.
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Default Re: KTA M&M project

Russ, a friend of mine has one, a 37 I believe with the long wishbone, the guy he bought it from said the man he hot it from changed it for pulling something to do with the weight transfer. I seen those wheels on y hat one for sale very nice. If you had original rear hubs I know where there is a set cut offs, probably not that far from you. Jim
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