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We have what we think is a 1 1/2 HP United. The closest we can find is a pic on page 520 of C.H. Wendel's book. The bore is 4" & the stroke is 5". The nameplate is missing, so we need the HP, Type & a typical serial #. From what I have read, the gooseneck trip was introduced in 1916. That's about all we know. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks--- Al Louck, Oquawka, IL
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Al,
Here's a catalog cut of a 1 3/4 hp and a couple of a friend's with Webster mag ... also 1 3/4 hp. Your mixer does not look to be United.
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Default Re: United Air-Cooled Need Some Help

In many ways, it resembles my air cooled Associated, with the exception of the mixer. Mine's a battery ignition. Trip mechanism is different.
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Doug & Pat--- Thank you both. Pat, could we see a pic of your Associated? Doug, do you have any serial numbers for us? Also, what does the "Type A" denote? I'll have to admit I'm a little confused with the similarities between United, Associated & Acadia. Al Louck
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I don't have ser.#'.
I think the biggest difference between Type A & F is the cylinders on A's are bolted to base with vertical bolts; the F's have horizontal bolts.
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I can't explain the type A except that I think most were of Associated origin. Most type F were Waterloo produced, but I think there is also a type F produced by Thompson which precedes the type A. ????? There is also a type B and C. C were Nelson Bros production and might have been in UK. Type H often appears on dual fuel engines. Type S is a later 6 hp which appears to be an uprated 4 1/2.

The catalog cut of the air cooled is interesting in that it shows an air cooled equipped with a 2 bolt mag. That picture shows the EZV mixer. The J type mixer followed the 2 bolt mag, but not by much. This could be a real late air cooled.

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OOOPS. It was late. That's not a 2 bolt mag in the catalog cut.

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Here are a couple of pictures of a United mixer and head for a 1 3/4 horse, don't know for sure if they are from an air or hopper cooled engine.



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