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10-20 McCormick Deering Question


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Old 02-24-2012, 07:23:58 PM
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Default 10-20 McCormick Deering Question

Hi -

Just wondering if there was such a thing as a 10-20 or W30 McCormick Deering industrial tractor???

A friend of mine ran into a guy claiming there was.


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Default Re: 10-20 McCormick Deering Question

A 10-20 or W30 on steel wheels with solid rubber pads instead of skid rings and lugs, or one on rubber tires with truck treads would be an "industrial" version. There were about 500 15-30s built like this with rubbber tires on 50" rears. Apparently in the late 1930s pneumatic rubber road tires were offered. "Road" tractor might have been the preferred name. I'm pretty sure that the name plates and decals didn't make any specific reference to "industrial" or "road."
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Default Re: 10-20 McCormick Deering Question

There sure was a Industrial 20, lots of them were used on Dump Wagons, Graders ect.
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I was about to comment that my IHC serial number list doesn't list any "named" variations except for the "Fairway" versions of several different models. My list doesn't mention the Model 20 and I've never heard of one. That goes to the top of my want list. Fascinating. A Model 20 Industrial would look great sitting next to my Allis IB that I'm about to finish for my wife. Is the Model 20 a modified 10-20? Any idea of any serial number prefixes? Thanks.
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I have a 1928 Russel Motor Patrol no 4 with a I-20 power unit. It has led a Hard life. I plan on resurecting it with some 10-20 parts. After Caterpillar bought Russel in late 1928 they discontinued the IHC power unit and replaced it with a Cat 20.

The gears are all in the wrong place including reverse and second and third are a Lot faster than the 10-20.

Here is a link to Tractordata.com with some specs, You can click on the transmission link to see the difference in speeds. http://www.tractordata.com/industria...strial-20.html

I've talked to some other people that have other brand graders with the I-20 power unit. Most but not all I-20's used gasoline as far as I know so that explains the higher horsepower figures.

A little more info here http://tractors.wikia.com/wiki/McCor..._20_Industrial

Note that they say 4 speed here. I don't know the exact year they added the 4th speed.
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Thanks a lot, fellows!! I sure appreciate all the good information!!

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I have 2 galion graders with I-20's both 4 speeds '27 and '35
shift pattern is marked L, 2.3. and H, which is a road gear.
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the other I-20 has large drum brakes and a foot throttle heavier front axle. I think the fuel tank is larger too.
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my 1927 i-20



ok last try at the pic, if not its on my profile

Craig here: THAT one Lee? >>> .......
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They got all over the world too, this one's in the UK.
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That I-20 looks like is has Fordson wheels on it.Rob
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about 3yrs ago,off Rt-78 20min from Phillipsburg,near Bloomsburg/Silvertown,i had bid on a I-10/20 with a moto-patrol grader blade tractor at an old farm auction..I can remember it was an Arthur Hanna auction he conducted. i stopped bidding at $700 cause i didnt have a long enough trailer to haul it home and was there for a farmall cub that i didnt win anyway... i often wonder if someone local bought that unit I-10/20. wish i had taken pictures that day.. if someone local here in PA/NJ got that unit and is a staker,please get in on this thread.
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Default Re: 10-20 McCormick Deering Question

There were steel wheeled and lugged 10-20 industrials also, a friend had one with rear road wheels and the front axle was 15-30 with same for wheels. That one had a Samson winch on it, could have been oil field use.
International wasn't shy about manufacturing machines for any need.
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Default Re: 10-20 McCormick Deering Question

I see on the ads a grader with an I-20, a russel, hand controls..simalar to my galion with hydraulics

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do fordson & IH have the same splines on the rear axle?
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wierd as it is ours has the same splined axles and wheels as a fordson, but i have never seen another with splined axles. I was told by the original owners daughter that it was custom ordered.Also all the other I-20's i have seen were gas only but ours is factory distillate, and most others had the individual rear brakes, which ours doesn't. Mine spent its life maintaining RT7 out of south shore KY until it was paved, it then ran a sawmill till the owner died. I am told by numerous people, one day the owner was sick and that another guy was driving the tractor who had never used it and he ended up running it off the edge of an embankment and it killed him. While mechanically restoring it we have found that the steering shaft, brake lever, and shifter have all been broke off and brazed back on along with a huge gash in the trans case and the front axle mount

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also the steering wheel is a modified valve handle
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early IHC had the single key, I don't know what year they went to spline. never saw the wheels interchanged before
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