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Old 11-14-2006, 10:19:52 PM
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I recieved My GEM today and it has LOTS OF COLOR PICTURES in it. My Subscription is due, What was decided about the 12 or 6 issues if you subscribed before the change??????????? Dale
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:22:09 PM
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I have not subscribed to GEM for a few years now. At that time it was monthly.

I hear rumors that things have changed, but can anyone give me a reader's digest version of what the story is today?
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Old 11-14-2006, 10:25:29 PM
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If you sighned up for 2 yrs you get screwed..Thats probably a lot of $$$...Byron
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Old 11-15-2006, 07:44:30 AM
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My sub. ran out, I have not and will not re up! This is my gem. old-engine.com!!!! Thanks Harry
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Old 11-15-2006, 08:48:41 AM
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So what went wrong? How did 2 years subbers get the shaft?
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Old 11-15-2006, 08:55:04 AM
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Changed subs from 12 issues/year to 6/year & basically said a year's subscription is a year's subscription. Guys that had just subscribed for 2 years get 12 issues instead of 24 they thought they were getting. I was lucky ... only lost one issue ... but not a good way of doing business or generating warm feelings.
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Old 11-15-2006, 09:09:06 AM
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Got it, Doug.

Kinda sounds like a breach of contract when a person signs up for 24 issues and only gets 12, doesn't it?

On the other hand, if the original subscription says "Get two years of GEM...." then that is really what they got. (Not that it would be right!)
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Old 11-15-2006, 10:47:53 AM
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The only thing I dont like about it is, your paying the same price for half the product. I do agree that there putting out a little bit better magazine then before, but its still the fact that your paying the same price for half of what you were getting before.
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Old 11-15-2006, 11:28:55 AM
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I look at it as it is better to get it half as often as not at all. If a publisher can't make a decent profit they can be expected to drop the magazine. They aren't in it for the hobby like we are, it is a business and they have to pay decent wages to their employees and cover the added costs of paper, etc. Just like any other business owner, if there are any out there.
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Old 11-15-2006, 12:00:05 PM
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its not a breach of contract! you sign up for 2 yrs, you get two years.

It cost about the same for a tank of diesel a pickup truck as for 2 yrs of GEM.

Anyway. Dale it is 6 issues a year and well worth your support and still a good read. And a nice improved quality printing for those who appreciate quality and save paper copies of the mag.
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Old 11-15-2006, 01:14:49 PM
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The renewal data cards & info inside magazine clearly stated> 12 issues/ 1year 24 issues/2years 36 issues/3 years prior to spring of 2006 when they dropped the issues numbers. Folks who renewed prior got reduced number of magzines they thought they were paying for. Does anyone have a late 2005, early 2006 renewal card laying around to post image of??
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Old 11-15-2006, 03:24:44 PM
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John is right, all the ads said 12 issues. Look in the June 2006 issue, page 2, the subscription box cleary states $33/ 12 issues. Says nothing about annual or time. Has been that way for years. The subscription rate was for 12 issues.

The July 2006 issue reads $33 / 6 issues. The publisher just plain lied when he said the subscription is an annual rate.
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Old 11-15-2006, 03:50:46 PM
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For crying out loud. How many times can you beat a dead horse? Would some of yal like some cheese with that whine?
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Old 11-15-2006, 03:54:15 PM
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Well guys & gals;

The May 2006 issue listed the subscription rate @: $33.00 for 12 books. The July issue listed the subscriotion rate @: $33.00 for 6 books.

Now then; I'm from the old school and I like the magazine and will continue to subscribe, after all it's easier to read the magazine on the "john" than to carry my PC in there, since I don't have a lap top.

Once the negative comments start it seems like that's the only comments we get. Surely there's more folks out there that still like the good "Ole" "GEM".

Thanks Richard for a fine magazine.

Just my humble opinion!

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Old 11-15-2006, 10:59:30 PM
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Personally I think that the content of the magazine has gotten so much better per issue that I still love it. I think there is more engine related articles in the last issue than any two of the old monthly issues. Before the change everyone was complaining that the magazine didn't have enough pure engine material but the new format is much better. The bottom line is love it or leave it alone. They are the only people that try to bring us a magazine about these engines. I too love this website and am on it every day but it's also nice to have a printed magazine.
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The latest issue of GEM is absdolutely the best ever. I am quite confident that the management of GEM did what they had to do to continue to publish in the face of rising costs, and I, for one, compliment them on their efforts. All the whining about the increase in subscription costs tends to get really tedious --- but then, I'm just a cranky old guy.

Thanks, Harry for this site -- and thanks to the GEM management for coping with a difficult situation.


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Old 11-16-2006, 12:54:16 AM
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I agree with the last two posts. Having 6 issues is better than none,and I still enjoy the magazine.There was a article printed in GEM in October 1999 on page 21,Stationary Engine Mailing List, center coloum, about a person that stated that "when he first started to get GEM it was bi-monthly,and about how great it was," and when it went too monthly, two things happened, "the price went up" and the" quality went down" and then he rambles on about filler material ,and "the dreaded show reports" So I guess it"s really hard too please everybody.Keep up the good work GEM, Thanks!!
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:05:29 PM
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Nobody's beating a dead horse Monte.

Someone who wasn't around for the original beating dug up the dead horse and drug him in here to ask what happened.

And what happened was the subscription terms were changed.
That's a FACT. Some folks are upset, some aren't, some think it's still a good value, some don't. But the terms WERE changed, and noone was grandfathered in even though they paid up-front.
It's sorta like this: You go to a buffet that says, "All you can eat: Four Dollars." After your trip to the salad bar, they take your plate and say, "That's all you can eat for four dollars."
If they wanna raise their prices that's their business, but they don't have the right to change the deal on those who already paid.
I'm not whining, but I do like cheese.
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Old 11-17-2006, 09:51:18 PM
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I too am a subscriber to GEM, I was a little bugged when it went to 6 issues. BUT, Like many of you guys here, who have STACKS of years and years of GEM at home. I spend more time digging through past issues, refreshing my memory over and over again, more than my new issue, Dont get me wrong I read it when I get it, but it soon gets filed in the stack with the rest of them only to be pulled out when you are looking for that one specific picture of that one specific engine you just bought, and read about in the past. If I could only remember what issue that was hmmmm. my 2 cents.
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Old 11-18-2006, 01:25:22 AM
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I understand that. But at this time, its a dead horse.
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Nobody's beating a dead horse Monte.
Someone who wasn't around for the original beating dug up the dead horse and drug him in here to ask what happened.
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