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Old 12-01-2013, 09:43:54 AM
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Peter,
No. 3 is an eccentric engine and 1 and 2 are cam engines. There are cams under the covers on the side shaft. The trips on the eccentric engine are for the air start valves. The cam engines are newer than the eccentric engine. The cam engines use butterfly valves to throttle the air and gas but the eccentric engine uses rotating sleeve valves for the throttle. The engines use Woodward hydraulic governors.
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Don't panic yet; they're not all gone yet. I saw some Type 24s running in Havens, KS, in October: 1800 BHP @ 125 RPM because they were field-turbocharged some years ago. My employer has some Type 26s sitting on ready in a building now: rated 1600 BHP @ 125 RPM, not turbocharged.

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Hello from the C-B fans at my employer, with the initials TGP. We have Type 26s still available.
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Old 12-16-2013, 09:24:33 PM
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Do you have any pictures?
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Yes; let me figure out how to get them to you.
Understand this is my employer so don't send them around and get me in trouble.

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OK, if you have a smartphone, I can send a short movie of the ones in Havens right now. PM me the number.
Otherwise, I have to figure it out.
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Well, my movie is not nearly as good nor complete, compared to the ones posted earlier. The engines are the same, only larger bore.
We have 9 Type 26s (26 inch bore).
Because of the low speed the gas compressors are very efficient.
These engines are very labor-intensive to operate and to repair. It takes us about 2 weeks to unstack one side to replace an inner power cylinder. The parts are getting very difficult to get.
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Old 04-27-2014, 09:56:47 PM
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The Cooper engines in Rockport have been shut down for good now. The new compressor station is under construction and it is expected to be in operation sometime in August. The Coopers will probably be scrapped sometime after then. I have been corrected on the dates of manufacture of the three engines. The two cam engines were built in 1927 and the eccentric engine was built in 1925 although Columbia records indicate it was installed in 1928.

We are hoping to get permission from Columbia to take some spare parts from the eccentric engine for our engine at Rough and Tumble. We are hoping to get a complete cylinder with valves and a main cross head and connecting rod. We already have gotten the small spare parts they had in storage along with some foundry patterns for some parts for our engine. So far no one has come forward to try to save a complete engine.
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Old 07-08-2014, 08:59:54 PM
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We are at Rockport now and we are taking a cylinder, connecting rod and crosshead off the eccentric engine for spare parts for our engine. The rest of the engines will be heading to the scrap yard. Everyone is sad to see them go. The new Caterpillar engines that are replacing them are tiny. All six cylinders don't displace as much as one cylinder of a Cooper.
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Surprised its even worth it to scrap them. Figure in all the lifting, rigging, hauling, etc... costs to get those things moved to the scrap yard, you'd only get maybe $5,000-$10,000 profit per engine? Chump-change for an oil/gas company.
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The space they occupy is the most valuable part?

Sure is a shame because when they're gone they'll really be gone.

I understand it takes lots of money to move and preserve them, not something I have...
Any chance that folks could donate towards at least leaving them in place, keep them out of the scrap yard? Perhaps one day in the distant future they could be properly cared for?
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The space they occupy is the most valuable part?

Sure is a shame because when they're gone they'll really be gone.

I understand it takes lots of money to move and preserve them, not something I have...
Any chance that folks could donate towards at least leaving them in place, keep them out of the scrap yard? Perhaps one day in the distant future they could be properly cared for?
You are dealing with a large corporation, they don't care about history or what the scrap value is. They are getting rid of a liability and they will spend millions to eliminate it. They want the asbestos in the window caulking, the lead in the paint and the oil soaked concrete gone to prevent any chance of a lawsuit, that's it.
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The engineer at the station said that the number 2 engine which is a cam engine once ran continuously for 366 days, that's 8784 hours non stop.
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That is amazing. And to think they are being scrapped to save the environment. Boo on big government and regulations!
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Here are a few pictures of the station in Rockport. Everything old is now gone. The empty field is where the Cooper engines used to be.
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How sad. And they call that progress? By next summer those engines will be back in the US disgiused as cheap pipe fittings from China with threads that are out of specs.
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The people that run this country are Fn morons, I'm pissed.
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Someone ought to make a memorial out in that field!
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They are not being scrapped due to corporate greed they are being scrapped for inefficiencies and cost per MMCF to compress gas. The old Horizontals outlived their usefulness sometime in the 40's when the Cooper GMV was in it's final evolution phase. Fear not 2 strokes are actually lean burn by nature and some modern engineering advances have them poised to make a comeback. This was a new installation in 2015






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I just read this thread about the engines at Rockport WV. I deliver big rental equipment and was there several times through the construction of the new compressors and the removal of the old ones. It just tore me up every time I went there knowing what was going to happen to those wonderful pieces of machinery. I was thankful to get to walk in the building a few times to see them in operation for the last time. I'll never forget how big they were and how smooth they ran. Absolutely amazing they manufactured engines that big.
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