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Old 07-26-2010, 12:08:48 PM
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Default Flywheel Engine Starter

A friend of mine has an oil field engine starter that was built by Fairbanks Morse. It uses a 12 volt starter geared to a friction wheel that presses against the face of the flywheel. Does anyone know where one of these can be purchased?
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Old 07-26-2010, 07:52:32 PM
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If such a unit was factory made, I would like one too!
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Default Re: Flywheel engine starter

I have a frame that you can mount a single cylinder engine on with a friction pulley to start oil field engines by the flywheel.
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Old 07-26-2010, 10:01:48 PM
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Oh they make them but they cost $1400.00. Makes that old hand crank look way better.

It's way cheaper to find a young, strong and not too smart fellow to help crank. An occasional hamburger goes a long way.

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Default Re: Flywheel engine starter

Does it looks like this one:http://www.arrowengines.com/media/990starter.pdf
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Default Re: Flywheel engine starter

That's the one.
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Default Re: Flywheel engine starter

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Oh they make them but they cost $1400.00. Makes that old hand crank look way better.

It's way cheaper to find a young, strong and not too smart fellow to help crank. An occasional hamburger goes a long way.
Where can you find one of the manufactured 12v starters. I have a friend who is looking for one. Could you send a picture of one if you have it?
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Default Re: Flywheel engine starter

There is one available now called the Wilson Pinstar, see http://www.wilsonpinstar.com/ps.html They also show a price list of parts that would be good reference if one was to build their own unit.

Starter unit is $795, $995 with cables & control box.

They also make a gas engine powered unit.
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I've heard about pinstars for years but I've never seen one or knew anyone who owned one. I am a retailer so I'm going to talk to them about their product, might be something I can sell as I have a lot of customers that could use one. IF they are worth a flip.

I just sold an Arrow 990 the other day and they are currently $1600.00 retail now.
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Most of the old ones I've seen were made by "Happy" out of Oklahoma. You start the "starter engine" then push down with your foot to make the friction wheel go agaainst the flywheel. A place in Elinwood Kansas called the Tinker Shop used to make one using a Ford starter and solonoid and used a wireline stripper rubber as the friction wheel. They worked well. I used then on FM 503 and 739 as well as C-96 and C-106's.
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I have done business with wilsonpinstar and they were reliable. The have friction wheels for sale. mine didn't work well, the starter engine turned too fast and didn't have enough torque. I'm now considering useing a vayiale speed chev that will allow contact at a much lower speed and then as starter engine speed increases, friction wheel will speed up. Has anyone tried this approach?
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Default Re: Flywheel engine starter

Here is a picture of one that used a single cylinder engine. The shaft, bearings, and friction wheel are missing. The second picture is what the owner used to start the 40 HP Fairbanks Morse engine.
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Default Re: Flywheel engine starter

Here's a starter I built for our 20 hp Ball engine on permanent display.
I used a 3 hp electric motor that I had lying around. Had to use double reduction to get enough oomph. Now it isn't quite fast enough ... so when it fires I hafta get the tire off of the flywheel so it doesn't drag the engine down before the next "Fire". Even with my double reduction , it doesn't have quite enough balls & will kick the breaker sometimes. I need about a 5 or 6 hp motor .. gear it back up a little & it would be perfect.
Notice the rubber tire particles laying in the oil trough of the bedplate.
I never finished the engagement stuff ... I just insert a bar into a pipe welded to the thing & pull the bar up to engage the tire. The whole gizmo hinges off of angles that are screwed to the rr tie bed.
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Default Re: Flywheel engine starter

Just talked to the Wilson-Pinstar people about a starter for my 346 Fairbanks I am using in the oil field. Very nice people (daughter-in-law of the founder). I think I will be ordering one soon. I am getting too old to crank 346 cubs. lol Thanks for posting!!
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Default Re: Flywheel engine starter

Y'know... Horror-Fright has these 5hp Honda clones for a hundred bucks... that, with a few pieces of steel from the scrap pile, a lawn-tractor tire and some chain would solve such problems on-the-cheap....
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Default Re: Flywheel engine starter

I have a Wilson Pinstar 12 volt to start my Witte diesel-6hp-would not be without it!
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Default Re: Flywheel engine starter

How about this idea for a starter??http://youtu.be/2PAFsqR1PAs
Sorry site doesn't work

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Default Re: Flywheel engine starter

I just sold my first Wilson Pinstar this week. The customer has yet to tell me what he thinks. The owner at Pinstar did give us the option of returning if he's not satisfied. His FM 503 will tell the tale.
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Default Re: Flywheel engine starter

i had a bunch of logs to get sawed, and there was an amish sawmill near by, i took a load of logs over, and was looking at his set up. he had a large diesel power unit, but now starter. on other side of engine, there was a gear reduction engine with dual belts, that was alligned to pulley on front of crankshaft. all of this was built on a slide. to start the diesel, they would start the briggs, and lean back on it, tightening the belts and cranking the engine. maybe you could do something similar with an older little engine to start the big engine. not quick, but would make the show more interesting. necessity breeds invention,
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Default Re: Flywheel engine starter

There was a gentleman in bay city Michigan that owned a machine shop called ryes machine shop. I happened to stop there one day on another note a seen that he had a lot of big oil field engines setting around. He was getting to old to work in the shop but was there every day. In talking to him he stated that all he did was rebuild engines for the oil fields when he first got going. He was telling us about guys breaking ther legs trying to start the bigger engines because they would stand on the flywheels to get them going. He showed us a battery operated starter that seemed to be made out of a starter that he had designed and built in his machine shop and sold lots and lots of them to the oilfields. They looked like they were just the ticket for starting those bigger engines. They were very portable and simple to use. Have no idea on price. Could get more info if needed. Let me know if interested. My email is cbelonga@att.net
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