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Saw this generator hook up cord in ad today.


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Good way to Fry the local LineMen, in an emergency outage.... They do NOT call these "Suicide Cords" for Nothing...
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LET'S DO A "Sing along"..... M-I-C, K-E-Y, M-O-U-S-E.
Manufactured by the RUBE GOLDBERG No Liability Cord company
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Default Re: Saw this gen hook up cord in ad today.

That is an insurance canceling cord. Or as some call it. You get to pay for everything damaged and maybe a free night in jail cord.
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Default Re: Saw this gen hook up cord in ad today.

Meh, looks fine to me. Maybe that's just the perpetual rabble-rouser in me

The ONLY difference with it is that it requires a brain to operate. Oh, wait- I've just uncovered the flaw haven't I!

Regardless, the stupid thing that I see here is Selling it on the Internet!!!

I wouldn't even sell it at a garage sale lol.
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Default Re: Saw this gen hook up cord in ad today.

So take a plug rate 30 amps and grind off the "L" pin so it can use either a 30 or 50 amp plug.

Where is the ground pin?
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Default Re: Saw this gen hook up cord in ad today.

I thought it was the ground, that's why I posted it.
Lot of these cords are for drier plug, 220 and ground ( no neutral)

Fun if house plug had no ground wire.,. ....... Floating neutral

Floating neutral.......Lets the magic smoke out of your 120 V loads. TV, stereo, electronics, motors......$$$$

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Default Re: Saw this gen hook up cord in ad today.

Yeah, the older 30 amp dryer sockets, and 50 amp range sockets, officially had no neutral, though the code allowed the use of the ground as a neutral for incidental loads like lights, clocks, timers, and the motor in the case of a dryer, so there should always be a ground of some sort present.

The conductor in question (if present!) would be a #10, and plenty adequate for use with the 30 amp, ahem, generator adapter. Of course, as we all know this does not properly address generator grounding.

Sometimes, as is also code, the raceway itself, ie conduit, is the grounding conductor. While in all likelihood it would be fine, that is starting to get cheesy, and is placing 120 volt equipment at risk, IMHO. Well, and anyone stupid enough to touch a running generator while not wearing shoes lol. Although it was considered good enough for running the aforementioned incidentals.

All of my generators are 120 volt, 2 wire, and most of limited capacity, so my generator adapter for use with these is different than this one.
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Default Re: Saw this gen hook up cord in ad today.

my generators are set up for 120 so I cant run one of those.

Sure would make it easy to load it up versus having cords running all over the place. But the wife wouldn't be able to figure that setup out so we stay with the multi cords.

I have job requirements that will take me away during any power outage, So we gotta use the KISS method here.
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My cost for materials to make one of these is less than the asking price! I won't make one of these even for a friend, and I have been asked to many times. I tell them I like them too much to see them get hurt, sued, or go to jail!
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I remember in buildings early grounds being just the steel armor of BX cable, if anything at all. Might start a fire if use ground as the neutral

Later in plastic cables the ground wire was lot smaller gauge than the hots.

And then there's the guys who cut off the green wire at BOTH the breaker box and the outlet, so you couldn't easily hook it up even if you wanted to. Seen that on a newer 240 only outlet for a heater. Accidentally found both the box and ground prong hole wasn't grounded while looking for a ground to test a junky old stove that shocked someone. Surprisingly the stove feed was grounded, old cabin.

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Yeah, you see all sorts of stuff out there.

As a contractor I once had a job rewiring a house that had burned. The imbecile that was calling himself a General (under his brother's license, supposedly. His brother must not have been too smart either) said that he figured he "Probably knew about 80% electrical" Wow! I don't think ANYONE knows 80% of the electrical field! He then went on to say that he knew how to take power from a plug, up to a switch, and fill a ceiling with those damned ugly "can" lights. Whoa. I bow to the master!

Anyway, this imbecile proceeded to hook up some temp power for his roofers out of the panel. He had a piece of MC, and had a black wire to a breaker, white wire to neutral/ground bus, and green wire to ANOTHER BREAKER. Brilliant!

When I started in the trade they were using this MC cable that had the little tiny extra ground wire in it, there to supplement the jacket. BX cable had been outlawed by that time. By the time I left the trade they had the MC cable with a full ground wire in it, like you find today.
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Nice cord well worth 55.00 to kill yourself or somebody else.
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Default Re: Saw this gen hook up cord in ad today.

Yup all of the above, look at the length I guess that you run the generator in the laundry room,.....
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Default Re: Saw this gen hook up cord in ad today.

It's modified, even seller has this image in the listing... Couldn't find the big 'ol Kohler diesel.. Looks like a Lister (?)

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Default Re: Saw this generator hook up cord in ad today.

You better be careful about how you plug it in also. The one end is a twist lock into the generator ok? The other end exposed 3 prong drier plug. Imagine explain to someone (your wife for instance) plug in the cord on both ends before starting the generator. She plugs in the generator side starts the generator and has a live end. Oops sorry officer I told her to plug it in on both sides before starting the generator. She just didn't listen.
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Default Re: Saw this generator hook up cord in ad today.

That sure does look like instance death no short cuts when it comes to electricity
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Remember Saturday afternoon sci-fi horror shows

Think I remember them using something like this to kill the monster.
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Default Re: Saw this generator hook up cord in ad today.

It's been slow here lately so I posted this thread so we can all have a good laugh at it.

For those who don't know.......This cord is dangerous and illegal to use. No one should use it to backfeed power to a building. You need a transfer switch or interlock.
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