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Old 06-12-2007, 06:40:33 AM
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Hi Gang,
im currently chasing a Standard Separator Engine, Ive been doing some research and its really got me more confused

The engine im looking at has a vertical tank on the top of the carb and has a chain link drive to the mag (which is facing out from the engine)that is directly horizontal to the crank, also im noticing different styles of bases would it be correct to assume that any standard seperator base would actually fit and or originally have been offered with the engine.

I have included some pics below (of Standard Sep engines in AU) is any one able to date these or offer suggestions or dating progression by different things the company did to the engine for example changed from chain to gear drive.

Dose anyone know the correct colour and striping?

Really looking forward to your help on this one.

Kind regards and many thanks,
Roo
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Old 06-12-2007, 08:06:53 AM
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Default Re: Standard Seperator Engines

Hi Roo;
Standard Separator built engines for their own use on cream separators as well as for several other companies. these other engines turn up with all sorts of variations. The water cooled engine is very scarce. I have seen the air cooled ones with chain drive,gear drive and no mags. They were built with at least three different kinds of mags. You will find different types of mixers, gas tanks and mufflers. Some have slant fins and some are streight.I have a full base one with a mag and a battery set up in the base. It has a switch so it could be started on batteries and run on the mag. A second one I have is mounted on a portable milking machine. It has no base, being mounted directly to the machine. I don't think I have ever seen two of them exactly alike.
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Old 06-12-2007, 08:09:06 AM
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Hi Iron Wolf,
thanks for the prompt response, do you have any photos you wouldnt mind sharing of yours? is there anyways to actually date these when did they change from water to aircool and also battery to mag?

Thanks so much,

Roo
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Old 06-12-2007, 09:05:30 AM
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Default Re: Standard Seperator Engines

Hi Roo.I have an engine the same as you are looking at.It is compleat including its seperator.It is chain drive mag and has the tank on top of the carb.As far as I can tell these were the earlier type pre 1909,they allso had parrallel fins.My engine also has its original base.It has 90 percent of it's original paint and it is very high gloss black enamel with extensive gold striping much as you would see on a Singer sewing machine.The tag on it says Buzzucot but this would only be who sold them here.I have seen others with the same tag.
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G'day Edd,
thanks so much for your reply, would you mind sharing a few pictures of yours? i notice in one of the pics I posted the red engine has a cover over the mag would this be a guard for the chain drive?

Many thanks and kind regards,
Roo
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Old 06-12-2007, 10:02:00 PM
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Default Re: Standard Separator Engines

I have 2 Standard engines. One with a magneto and one without. Each has a different gas tank..
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hi John,
thanks for your post do you have some picutres of yours? also could you please explain the starting procedure for the one with the vertical tank

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I had some pix of the Stds. in my file but must have deleted them. Next time in the shed I will take some more. Have you run a search on Smokstak? Their is a whole bunch of info. there.
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Thanks Daniel for your offer id love to see them ive checked the stak and also googled and found a little more info also found a pic which is similar to the on im chasing, see attached pic with the vertical fuel tank pity I cant see the other side!
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Are all of these cream seperator engines 4 cycle? Has anyone ever seen any two cycle?
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John,
I think Empire Motors were two cycle ... neither engine is mine ... one belongs to a friend and other was from Ebay.
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Doug,

Thanks for the reply, I thought maybe some of these engines might be a cream seperartor engines. They are all Barlows except for the last engine I'm not sure what it is. I believe a couple are two cycle and a couple are 4 cycle. Also these are a not my engines just some photos that I collected from the internet of strange neat looking little engines. I really like the last engine and I know who owns it but he doesn't want to sell it.
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Hi Guys, I have just picked up one of these separator engines but it's missing the flywheel. Would anyone have a spare flywheel? Thanks in advance.
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