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1910 IHC Model F Roadster Restoration


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Hi Everyone

I will be making several post today to show the fixtures and how some of the parts were formed to attached the top sockets to the car body.

The 4 pictures in this post are of the fixture used to bend the irons the top rest on when the top is folded down. The 3rd and 4th pictures show the part bolted into the fixture before bending. The length of the part was all figured out in Auto Cad and then the part was turned and threaded on the lathe.

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Hi Again

In this post I'll actually start making the part hot and forming it. The 1st thing I'll be forming is the large radius on the end of the part that fit's into the top socket at the back of the car seat. At this point in construction both the right and left side irons are the same.

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Hi Again

In this group of photos another block has been added to the fixture, to form the 90 degree bend where the brass saddle will fit on for the top bows to lay in. This is also the operation which determines the right and left side. I made the fixture in such a way that I can take the bolts out of the fixture and reverse the components on the fixture to form both the right and left side irons.

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Old 12-06-2014, 01:15:27 PM
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Hello

In this group of pictures I'll be showing the fixture used and actually forming the iron work that attaches to the front of the seat that the top bows attaché too.

In the 1st picture the part is attached to the bending fixture as it came from the lathe.

In the 2nd picture I have attached a piece of bar stock that has been threaded and faced off in the lathe to the part that is being bent. This will be used as a hand grip for bending, but also as a gage that I can set the square against to be sure the bend is 90 degrees. As shown in the 4th picture.

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Hello

In this post the pictures will show the finish bending operation on the part. In the last picture it can be seen setting the square head on the temporary hand grip checking to see the part is level after being bent. Since the table the fixture is bolted to is level and the part is level on the hand grip the bend is 90 degrees which is what I want it to be.

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Hi Again

For the last post today I'll be sharing pictures of the parts installed on the body that were just formed in the last few post and setting up the location for the top bows.

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I just saw a post on the horseless carriage club of America website on their general discussion forum from a family looking for a price one of these would go for. It sounds like they want a fair deal with someone who will use it and cherish it. Maybe you could talk with them and point them in the right direction. They were in Southern California.
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Hi Slightmiss

Thanks for the heads up, I'll try to contact them.

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Bump, any more progress? This a sweet project!
How many are left yours plus this one for sale for sure. http://aumannauctions.com/index.php?ap=1&pid=41343
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Hi Everyone

It has been a very long time since I have posted anything about the IHC Roadster. I'm happy to say that the car has been pulled from storage and is being worked on again. The engine has been shipped to Wendell Kelch for a total rebuild. I've been fighting cancer for the last 5 years, but I want to see it finished and so work has started. I will be posting pictures as time permits.
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Hi Everyone

Today I'm posting pictures of No. 1 Cylinder. In the 1 St picture you will see a yellow box and if you look close you can see several fins have been broken off. In the other 2 pictures you can see the great job Wendell Kelch and his crew have done welding in the broken fins. I believe they used some sort of spray welding process.

Enjoy the pictures.
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LeRoy ask me to tell you fellows how my machinist fixed the fins. He used a stick welder on AC with a 3/32 Nickle 99 cast iron rod. he laid about 1/4 inch on the fin- stress relief it with a pecking hammer. Then take a grinder and file to trim it down from 1/4 in wide. Then weld another 1/4 on the fin and do it all again. When you get it high enough you take a needle scaler to it and it will eather mark it up like cast iron or if you didn't get a good weld and any of the joints it will knock it off! So he is very sure the fins are there to stay after the needle scaler gets done beating on them. Hope this helps Wendell
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Hi Everyone

Work is progressing on the roadster. Thought I'd post some pictures of the new fuel tank. John Wanat 1 of the sponsors on here did a great job making the new tank off my old pattern. Many thanks John. After getting the tank from John I sent it out and had it lettered like the original.
enjoy the pictures.

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Hi Everyone

Today I'm posting a picture of the battery Box for the Roadster. I have never seen a dealer name on an Antique Car before, but it seems to me that dealers back in the day would have done something like this just as dealers do today so I did a little advertisement on the battery box.

Melvin J Sheffer started business in Hanover, Pa. as an Osborne dealer in 1893 When IHC was formed in 1902 they became an IHC dealer and remained with IHC up until the Case by out. At that time the Sheffer family sold out the business and soon there after the business was closed. I have known Vance Sheffer ( Melvin's grandson ) for many years and I asked his permission to make up the ad for the battery box.

Enjoy the ad and please share any thoughts about what I have done with the ad. I just thought it was a nice way to honor a family business that was able to make a go of it for almost a century

Enjoy the picture.
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wow. do do a great job ,your work is perfect.am restoring 4 pre-1915 race cars.i need you here at marathon village.thanks for the great photos.
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Hi Everyone

Today we got the rear fenders properly located on the car and also have the transmission case fit in the frame. We are completely assembling the car and then will take it back apart for painting.

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Hi Again

Close up of how the fuel tank gets mounted. I still have to make the straps that hold the tank in place.

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Hi Everyone

Today I thought, I'd add some old photographs of IHC roadsters. It sure would be interesting to go back in time and talk to some of the people that are in the pictures.

The first picture shows a car that appears met up with something solid. This is the only picture I have that gives a clear view of how the seat was upholstered. Notice no bottoms to help hold the leather tight to the springs

2nd picture A threshing setup

3rd picture The story I got with this picture. Supposedly the 2 cars in the picture belonged to the mans family in Colorado before he was born. When the fellow grew up he started to hunt down the chassis and the drive train for this car ( motor came from John Tysse in ND ) but he never got it finished before he sold the car. There have been 4 other owners not counting the fellow that started out this project. All have located missing parts and added something to the project, but just got burned out over the years and sold the car to move on to other projects. The last fellow to own the car sadly passed away while working on the car. His estate put the car on E bay back in 2006. I bought the car back then and I also had a period of time where I got burned out and it set in storage for 7 years. I finally got myself straightened out with my cancer and have decided to get back on the car and finish it so I can show it and take my wife for ice cream before I cash in my chips. My wife has even bought some period correct clothes to go driving with me. It's really hard to find the correct parts for this car and without the help of a lot of people behind the scenes and the previous owners all looking and finding parts over the last 50 years this car would never get finished. I know the 1 owner found the Rushmore acetylene gas generator along with the correct size Rushmore headlights with consecutive serial numbers. That is like the Holy Grail to collectors in the Brass car circles. A fellow in Long Island NY had saved the old original body when he built a new body for his car. He gave me those parts to use as patterns when we built the body for my car. I've had a lot of help to start on the road to building this car into a show car and I certainly appreciate all the efforts that others before me have put into the project.

Enjoy the pictures

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Happy New Year Everyone

It has been a long time since I've posted any pictures of the IHC roadster project. The engine is still at Wendell Kelch's and it is slow tedious work. At some point in the cars past the original pistons were removed and aluminum pistons were installed, which weren't anywhere close to the originals. The location of the wristpin was way to short which greatly reduced the compression. The connecting rods were milled down in width to fit the aluminum pistons. So between repairing the rods and bringing them back to original sizes making patterns casting and machining new pistons a lot of time has pasted. Luckily the cylinder bores checked out OK so with some honing we didn't have to do anything serious to the bores. The crank was ground and all new bearings poured and line bored. I've posted pictures of the repairs to the rods. also had some work to do to the transmission case.
Will be posting more pictures in another post.
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Some pictures of the valve cages for the IHC Roadster. All but 1 of the original valve cages were broken over the years from over tightening. To fix these I chucked them up in the lathe and entirely machined off the flange with the bolt holes and then made a new pattern and had new flanges cast. I was able to bore the new casting to press fit over the original valve cage. The intake and exhaust valve cages are the same. The intake cages had suffered the same fate as the exhaust cages.
For anyone familiar with the big Mogul engines and tractors the valve cages are nearly identical in design just smaller on the car.
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