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Old 04-20-2018, 10:08:05 AM
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Hello to all. Started working on a 28 Boyer fire truck that was the first motorized pumper for the volunteer fire department I'm on Last September. It took about a month to get started, but only on 5 of 6 cylinders. Pulled the head and found #2 cylinder has a crack and runs to exhaust valve. Working on getting it torn down so I can get it to the machine shop to have fixed.
Was able to get the original file on the truck since we purchased it used. It's going to take some time to get it done since we are going to fund by donations only.
Will keep all of you informed on progress.
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Visually it looks good,so is it just mechanical restore or the whole truck paint and all?
No telling how many hours that thing pumped water wide open and the engine heat could a fried 2 dozen eggs on the cylinder head. Our old Ford pumper would get hot at night and the manifolds would be glowing under the cab ,looked eerie under there.

I know this is a odd question but could you post a close up of the seat? I bought a seat for 1 of my projects and it looks similar.
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ID:	308779I've rebuilt many engines in my life from small to big. I've never seen an engine that the Pistons/rod assembly wouldn't pass through the cylinder. The rod end is too big. Has anyone else seen this. Had to take rod loose and push Pistons out so I could take rings off. Then reconnect rods, then repeat. Was then able to remove the block from the crankcase. Took about 5 hours
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The overhead cam six in my 1935 MG Magnette engine is like that. You have to disconnect the rod from the crank and push it up in the cylinder bore, 'til the piston comes out the top. The wrist pins will just clear the top of the block. Then remove the aluminum buttons from the ends of the wrist pins and push them out. You can then lift off the piston and then remove the rod out the bottom. I think most of the 30's MG engines were this way. Assembly is obviously the reverse.
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Default Re: Another Restoration Project Started

I overhauled another British car (not an MG) back in the late '50's that was the same way. What was supposed to be a simple job turned out to be a challenge.

Add to that the fact that it had Whitworth fasteners and the only tools I had were a Crescent wrench and a cast iron end wrench I filed to fit some of the bolts.

Some of the engines I've designed and built are the same way. Idiot engineer!
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Having a connecting rod big end that is too large to pass through the cylinder is very common. Older Caterpillar and I think Cummins are this way. (It's been a long time). Suffice to say I have worked long ago on many engines where the piston/rod came out the bottom not the top.
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I know what you mean. Has been a real challenge. After removing the block, had to turn rod cap down and remove. Drive 1 of the rod bolts out. Turn crank 180 and then remove piston/rod. Then repeat. What a pain
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Since my last post, have taken the block to the machine shop to be fixed, but he is swamped. So while I'm waiting to get it back, started to replace the old rotten wood in the cowl area. Finally got the cowl off and sitting on the floor. The question I have is what wood was mostly used in 1928? It looks like poplar, but really can't tell. Thanks
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The question I have is what wood was mostly used in 1928? It looks like poplar, but really can't tell. Thanks
Ash is what a lot of restorers use.(Get it before the emerald ash borers do !)
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Hello to all. It's been a busy summer for me. Between work,home and daughters Girl Scout gold award, I finally got the frame dejunkified and primed. Had to wait on old mother to give me a break from the humidity on a weekend so I could paint the front part of the frame.
After several hours of research, waiting on the weather, I decided on rustoleum with a little hardner. I used a hvlp spray gun. I think it came out pretty good.
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Morning to you all. Just an update on the engine issues. I picked up the engine block from the machine shop in late January. After hot tanking, the block is far worst than anyone thought. There are 8 different cracks that need to be fixed. All cylinders will need sleeved, new valve seats, valve guides replaced, new valves, and new Pistons made. All this work comes at a hefty price of 4-6 grand and doesn't include any work on the head or low end. If all the the work is done to completely rebuild the engine is in the 7-10 grand. I've have been spending lots of time searching the web for a replacement engine with no success. So it's time to find a newer different engine setup that will work. And something I can get parts for. It's justall takes time to do the research. Mike
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Just an update. I'm going to repower with a ihc rd450 that Heins is selling me. After talking to him, it's just a matter of getting it running again. Then getting it pulled. Then finding time to go pick it up which will be in late May or early June.then it will be time to do some fabbing to get it fitted in. As always it just takes time. Thanks Hubbie
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While waiting to go get the engine, I've stayed busy working on the cowl. Stripping paint and remaking all the wood pieces. Also making new sheet metal as needed. After stripping the paint, the sheet metal has a lot of holes that were covered up. By the time I weld all the holes up, I'd have a warped piece so I made new ones from 22 gauge ( same as orrinals ). This will be a whole lot easier than trying to straighting the warped pieces.
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After a road trip with my wife to pick up the engine from Heins, it was time to get to work. With the help Maggie, we got the engine between the frame rails. Then got it located in all directions. Now it's time to make the motor mounts.
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On your post #4, we had a IH TD 14 that the bearing end of the rod wouldn't go through the cylinder. There was room for the piston and rod could go by the crank and up through the cylinder far enough to get the rings on.
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