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Alternator on a hit and miss?


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Old 02-12-2019, 03:43:00 AM
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Default Re: Alternator on a hit and miss?

just think about how much an automotive engine speed varies
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Default Re: Alternator on a hit and miss?

I just ran across this thread, I realize it is a little old. Has anyone actually tried this? It seems to me that the biggest problem might be the 2 hp. That’s not much power and given the inefficiencys in the equipment I would guess it will do more hitting than missing.
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Default Re: Alternator on a hit and miss?

Thread isn't that old. I have actually done this.

I have a Delco 10SI alternator mounted to a bracket that clamps onto the skid of my Little Jumbo engine. A V belt is then run from the engine's flywheel to the alternator pulley. With the engine turned down to roughly 300 RPM instead of the rated 500 RPM, the alternator is spinning around 1200 RPM. My alternator is a 3-terminal alternator, and the field contact is connected through a manual switch. Like so I start the engine with the field turned off. The alternator then spins but produces no power while I start the engine and get it running properly. Then I close the switch to energize the field and make it all work.

Typically when first connected the alternator drags the engine to the ground. Sustained full loads, only misses every 2nd or 3rd charge, and if the engine stumbles it can't recover and stalls. Its rated 1 3/4 HP, I do have some blowby but it isn't in bad shape. Just the reduced power from running at 300 RPM is enough that the alternator is a full load for it at first. Once it has run a little while the alternator's output decreases and the engine can miss a few times between hits, usually by then there's steam drifting off the hopper.

I use the alternator to keep a car battery charged when I'm at shows. This battery then powers the 12v blower on my blacksmith forge, and also runs a cellphone charger for my wife so she stays happy while relaxing nearby.

At the moment I'm planning on making an updated video of the setup once the weather improves. For now here's a picture of my engine and forge all set up at a show. Its apparently too big of a picture for an inline view.

https://i.imgur.com/KJaIlBP.jpg
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Default Re: Alternator on a hit and miss?

A friend has an IHC 11/2 HP M engine belted to a 100 amp AC Delco 1 wire alternator, off a Chevrolet. He charges a 12 volt battery and that in turn powers an inverter that runs a fan and other 110 AC items. Cool set up for an engine show. Your dish pan should also be able to do the same. He uses a modern 100 amp generater and a serpentine belt drive. Belt rides on flywheel face and the stock pulley on the generater.
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