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Help!!--Stearns Engine Designations D-DR-DU Etc.


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Also it is my understanding the 1918 and 1919 Gile tractor would have been called a Stearns tractor in 1920. I am guessing my rust pile is a Stearns tractor or at least a later tractor for this reason, when I got the tractor home it had a funny looking radiator with cast tanks that I assumed was not correct. After a little cleaning I found the letter Q in the radiators cast tank part numbers like on the rest on the tractor parts. If Gile was like many other tractor companys (Aultman Taylor 15-30 for example) they started with a auto style Perfex radiator and then started casting their own. Only speculation till I can find a pic of the later 1920 Stearns tractor with their own cast radiator.
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JOE:
(1) Ran four of my more complete catalogs; only found the AU in (besides the Bear) it's continuation Mead-Morrison, and only found a few others listed with ANY Stearns...
(2) Thought to look at your scans of the Gile in relation to my undated ad illus...stuff on the side of the Gile doesn't look same, but illus in your Stearns scan is exactly same engine in my ad illus...my illus has valve cover off and has mag in place (no plug wires) but undoubtedly same engine. Will see if i can transmit a pic.
CRAIG: You must have the 10-20 Plowboy (Plow Boy?) as the Pony 8-16 and 13-30/15-30 show with Budas. D'you have an ID tag, or have you ID'd your Wauk (L-hd, en bloc, 31/2x51/4??)?? It's been commented that one of Wauks weaknesses was making continual changes to their engines.
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Bud......it's a 15-30.
I'll verify the engine and get the tag info.

(watch this post as I don't want to confuse the thread with redundant posts)

In the meantime take a look at that >>> American Plowman
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Bud, I believe you will find that the difference in trerminology of Plowman and Plowboy is that they refer to the different size tractors with the Plowman being the larger version. We tried to get one some years back that was badly canibalized but the group that had it weren't in a talking mood. The fact that the motor that Craig and Mark are working on is being pieced back together after all the damage it has sustained reinforces my theory of never throw away those presumed hopeless parts as someone may need them and they can be brought from the dead! Wonderful work! F.J.W.
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You're too kind Frank.......

That Plowman was purchased from the Reynolds collection at
Wetaskiwin, AB, Canada, some years ago.
Mark inherited that project from me when I sold the shop to him.
Luckily the owner is a very patient man.......
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CRAIG: That plowman has a Buda, if it's the one you were tearing your hair out about in 2007...
ALL: I think I answered my own question re the "R": perusing Stearns marine engine ads I find an MHU and an MHR (same b/s) with the MHR designated a "high speed" engine, wound up tighter; there was also an MDU and an MDR, (same b/s) the MDR with the same "high speed" designation.
So the AR used in the Mead Morrison would just be a higher rpm A/AU
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Also it is my understanding the 1918 and 1919 Gile tractor would have been called a Stearns tractor in 1920. I am guessing my rust pile is a Stearns tractor or at least a later tractor for this reason, when I got the tractor home it had a funny looking radiator with cast tanks that I assumed was not correct. After a little cleaning I found the letter Q in the radiators cast tank part numbers like on the rest on the tractor parts. If Gile was like many other tractor companys (Aultman Taylor 15-30 for example) they started with a auto style Perfex radiator and then started casting their own. Only speculation till I can find a pic of the later 1920 Stearns tractor with their own cast radiator.

Does it look like this?
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Does it look like this?
Yes! And judging by your pictures you have the other Gile/Stearns tractor I have been searching for. I heard long ago there was a second one in Michigan but was never able to locate.

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