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Twin City small Tractors. "On a WHIM"


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Old 08-28-2018, 09:57:41 AM
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Well Duey, although I REALLY enjoy old iron I can honestly say iv'e never been "moved" in the same way or had "movement" similar. I have had a time or two when I stayed out in the shed too long flirtin with accident, I have decided after all these years that the best laxative for me in the winter is a pair of coveralls and wander out to the furthest location on my property from the house. Works every time.
Your Twin City tractors look complete and pretty straight, I especially like the earlier 21-32, where mine is a later model I can see just by the one picture some of the design changes they made.
I have been using motorcraft/ ac/ any brand of spark plugs other than champion which I have had some trouble with. Im pretty convinced by now that most of my champion problems were due
to weak spark or cold plugs because other collectors don't have much of a problem with them, seems like. From now on a professionally rebuilt magneto is most important as im getting older
and cranking never was that fun anyway.

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Ya Russ, I was a Champ hater for many years too but should try the 20-30 year old W-14 (cold) plugs from the Grey Twin in the Rusty Twin just to see if he'd be happier with them as he isn't pleased with the Auto 3076's.
The mag is good and hot (found out with my hand in the wrong spot)...
Wait a minute. That's RELAXaxative right Russ? Hahaha! Uh huh! Sometimes the most peaceful moments a man can find is far far away from the house. That's when we are right. Pun fully intended.
Ahhh, winter. 20 below, no wind, the moon near bright as day and the snow crunches so loudly here in the woods! Oh. I see you're from Kansas. Hehehe!
Ya, I've been real lucky to find sweet ol' boys to fix on. I'm itching to get the 21-32 here plus the 53rd from the very end Universal MTA. Holler if you need any pics. Design changes are very interesting!
Proud papa again. Show prep is gonna get in the way the next couple weekends then the show so I'm just gonna have to turn into Job again and be patient.
My son is also itchin' hard to get back up north to visit the 3 Monsters!

Hey. How do you fellas keep the points cover on the Bosch mags from "clocking" when adjusting the timing? I have to go looking for a mag ground tab that's rusted off in Rusty's mag. Any thoughts?

I adjusted the fan shaft tonight. I wanted the wiggle gone so I did a real quicky job, carefully removing the fan (new core some inches away!) and removing the shaft assy.
Bearings sound and feel real good just almost snug. The pics are for the one guy that hasn't yet done it. Don't remember doing it on the Grey Twin...
I'll see if I can manage to post pics. Edit: This site works great!
1. I screwdrivered the nut down, turned more and ready for a cotter. Ain't gonna crank on it.
2. Bent cotter half way in.
3. All set. Yes, the lower half is pinched down against the nut. : - )
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Default Re: Twin City "small" Tractors. "On a WHIM..."

Sorry to post again.
Hmmm. The TSX-704 seemed awfully rich on the Rusty Twin with air cleaner.
The Wheeler seemed awfully lean without air cleaner until I opened it up for the Rusty. Ran great on the Grey back then with an air cleaner.
I was reading threads last night and ran across air cleaners being half plugged up at 90 years old.
Worth revisiting.
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The spark plug that works the best in my smoky 17-28 is the Champion W89D. Hard to find and not cheap. They work 10 times better than the W-14's as the extended electrodes are down in the fire and kept hot enough to keep most of the combustion residue burnt off. If one happens to foul it is very easy to clean and make serviceable again.
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Ooh! I've seen that part number somewhere before Mark. Thank you!
Only the best for my Baby Twin boys... : - )
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Mine seem to like the Autolite 3077's but they are also hard to find now. Extended electrode type. I also have them in my Allis 20-35's
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The spark plug that works the best in my smoky 17-28 is the Champion W89D. Hard to find and not cheap. They work 10 times better than the W-14's as the extended electrodes are down in the fire and kept hot enough to keep most of the combustion residue burnt off. If one happens to foul it is very easy to clean and make serviceable again.
If memory serves me right, the W89D crosses over to the 3077 Autolite. They seem to work well in most of this old stuff we have. Phil is right about them getting harder to find. I bought out all 8 the last time I was at our local Napa. I haven't checked to see if they were able to bring any more in. I'm sure there still some out there somewhere.
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Ya Russ, I was a Champ hater for many years too but should try the 20-30 year old W-14 (cold) plugs from the Grey Twin in the Rusty Twin just to see if he'd be happier with them as he isn't pleased with the Auto 3076's.
The mag is good and hot (found out with my hand in the wrong spot)...
Wait a minute. That's RELAXaxative right Russ? Hahaha! Uh huh! Sometimes the most peaceful moments a man can find is far far away from the house. That's when we are right. Pun fully intended.
Ahhh, winter. 20 below, no wind, the moon near bright as day and the snow crunches so loudly here in the woods! Oh. I see you're from Kansas. Hehehe!
Ya, I've been real lucky to find sweet ol' boys to fix on. I'm itching to get the 21-32 here plus the 53rd from the very end Universal MTA. Holler if you need any pics. Design changes are very interesting!
Proud papa again. Show prep is gonna get in the way the next couple weekends then the show so I'm just gonna have to turn into Job again and be patient.
My son is also itchin' hard to get back up north to visit the 3 Monsters!

Hey. How do you fellas keep the points cover on the Bosch mags from "clocking" when adjusting the timing? I have to go looking for a mag ground tab that's rusted off in Rusty's mag. Any thoughts?

I adjusted the fan shaft tonight. I wanted the wiggle gone so I did a real quicky job, carefully removing the fan (new core some inches away!) and removing the shaft assy.
Bearings sound and feel real good just almost snug. The pics are for the one guy that hasn't yet done it. Don't remember doing it on the Grey Twin...
I'll see if I can manage to post pics. Edit: This site works great!
1. I screwdrivered the nut down, turned more and ready for a cotter. Ain't gonna crank on it.
2. Bent cotter half way in.
3. All set. Yes, the lower half is pinched down against the nut. : - )
Yes, we need MTA pics.
I have one located on steel that I think could be bought, needs a lot of work. It was getting a clutch years ago when winter came and they put it back together without installing the clutch. Since then the engine stuck.
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Same clutch as KTA or U. Always wanted a MT on steel.
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Thank you guys.
Just got off the phone with my local NAPA. OK, I started typing at 5:10
Champ W89D is stock #589. Only comes in a pack of 8 for $7.69 each. They'll be here Friday. Works for me!
I'll have 4 spares. Cool. The poor guy didn't happen to recognize me til I laughed. (Oh hi Duane! Ya should've laughed 1st! he said). Hehehe.
My 37 MTA came to me with a rod bent the WRONG way. You know, the other direction. Sad state of affairs there. But the tractors were free so....
Lately, it's on a shorter repair list than for a long time. Then I buy more... Chicago Radiator, here I'll come. Well, you guys and Biewer's et al.

Before the fan shaft adjust last night, I made certain the shift rods and detent springs and areas had lube or grease and not dry. I've been reading a bunch here.
I HAVE to get the Grey Twin running. He was a little dry.
Funky, I spent weeks over on redpowermagazine forums combing for IH Diesel (gas start) system info. Got that sorted and on to the next piece (Grey Twin).
Love TC's and spent a bunch of time with an LP U MM. Ahhh. Tractors again.
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