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Old 11-26-2010, 04:08:29 AM
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We are just starting on a new combined trailer/RV for next season, rated at 3.5tons max weight it will carry our Ruston 1ZHR diesel and also give us a comfortable living area to use while we are away at shows.

Ordered the steel yesterday, should be delivered this morning, about 1/2 a ton of box sections.

The basic body is going to be built by a local truck body shop after we have built the chassis, ali extrusion, honeycomb walls and fibreglass roof.

Drawing below, that's as far as we have got with the design up to last week, I'll post some more copies when we have finished sorting out the mountings for the body.

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Is this a drawbar wagon type of unit if so I want to see someone back it into a parking spot, could be a problem, can be done but my what an exercise. Otherwise looks like a good way to combine a place to stay and a place to show. Best of luck with it.
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Hi John:

Yes, it is a drawbar, but reversing in a tight spot is usually done with a towball on the front bumper, which makes life a LOT easier!

We are just working on the body side mountings, side and top raves etc. All available as stock items, and a honeycomb side panel 17mm thick which is very stiff but light in weight.

Weight is just under a ton, estimated. The legal maximum for a trailer this size is 3.5 tons, the axles are rated at 1.3 tons each.

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Are there any what we call "Gooseneck Trailers" used in England? If not,is there motor vehicle laws that do not allow this type of trailer or is there are not large enough pick-up type trucks to tow them. "Gooseneck Trailers" are VERY popular here where I live. You see them in all configurations. Cattle/ Horse, flat bed equipment movers, Box trailer and Big Round Hay Baler movers. DAD and I built a flat bed for moving a pulling tractor years ago using 3X5 5/16" wall tubing. We were going to use 2X6 1/4" wall tubing but we got a deal on the 3X5 that was cheaper than the 2X6. We used three Mobile Home Axles which had brakes on all three axles. We found that we could replace the electric brake backing plates with mid 60's Ford 3/4 and one ton from axle backing plates to convert to hydraulic brakes.

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Hi Kent:

We don't have that class of trailer at all, mainly as we don't have the pickups to haul them

Once you go past 3.5 Tons trailer weight, you have to have power brakes, and only trucks have that option, usually air operated. We don't have electric brakes either, which is a bit of a pain, and as nobody has managed to get them Type Approved for use in the EEC, we cannot buy US-built braking units either.

So, 3.5 Tons is the maximum trailer weight with over-run braking, and there are very few vehicles, including commercials that will haul that weight. We have a Land Rover Discovery V8 that is rated at 3.5 tons, but most light commercials are only 2 tons max. You need to go to a light truck to get more.

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Some of the goose necks use a Vacuum over Hydraulic system here. When we built the trailer I spoke of a did the brake convertion, What we did for the master cylinder was to mount the power brake master cylinder from a 50 series Chevy truck in the back of the cab of the truck I pulled the trailer with. The trailer brakes were activated by a handed that we mounted next to the gear shift in the floor board of the truck. Worked it with your right hand. When the trailer loaded, there was no need to uses the truck brakes. We used a hydraulic coupler at the ball hitch point to couple the hydraulic line with a bleeder in the top of the neck to bleed the air out that was introduced when coupling was made.

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Kent:

Generally, we don't have the large pickups that you have in North America, although there is a 'light articulated' truck/trailer class that was introduced.

A few of the gooseneck trailers are over here, but usually together with a matching pickup.

We have a driver and vehicle operating licence break-point at 3.5 tonnes gross weight, after that you get involved in Operator Licences, tachographs etc etc.

Trailers over 3.5 tonnes cannot have overrun brakes (surge brakes) and must use air braking as there are no approved electric brakes in the EU.

Since we built our trailer, the braking system we used has been banned for turntable drawbar trailers, so we couldn't build another one.

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Started getting the connections sorted out this morning, got the first one done pretty quickly, and found the odd length of HO7 2G6 cable that I used last time as well

The connection box cable glands accept 6mm cable OK, but it's a bit tight to turn round in the short space you have to get to the terminal. I could have used solder-on rings, but the crimps are OK and quite secure.








The cable goes through a hole in the side of the frame as before.

Hopefully we can get those up on the roof over the weekend if the weather stays dry.

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