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Villiers Lightweight Engine Carb & Manifold


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Old 06-23-2018, 04:20:22 AM
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That carby looks familiar and I have seen them on a few different Villiers engines. You would think there are a few of them about?
I have to agree Cobba,as far as the ribbed bowl goes,although the rest of the carby body might differ?
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Old 06-27-2018, 04:34:40 AM
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Hello Mr Ozzie
You know your a bugger Ozzie. I went to an auction and brought two carbs and manifolds for a Villiers Lightweight for you but they were attached to mowers.
That's not so bad but the mowers seem to be quite sort after.
One is a Southern Cross KXA and the other is a Rover Economy. Bugger
Anyways.....long story short. I need a piston for one. The Southern Cross is like brand new inside except the piston. The timing has been wrong from day dot I'd say and the piston is deformed.

Here is what I saw at the auction and, believe it or not, I was the only bidder for both.

I'll take some pictures of the manifold and carb from different angles tomorrow Ozzie so people can see what you need.
Believe it or not, the numbers in the Southern Cross book seem to be the same as the Villiers numbers. It seems the number for the manifold is C856AU

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Old 06-28-2018, 04:16:45 PM
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Hello all
Here are some better pictures of the carbi and inlet. In a pinch the manifold could be made. Ozzie doesn't need the tin wear on the top.
I'll be able to see later today if this carbi was used on the Villiers Torque Master engines as well. It might be another avenue to investigate.
I have also discovered that the Rover with this engine has 2 butterflies in the inlet side of things. One in the manifold and one in the carbi and they're both linked together. I wonder why?

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Re post #12 -last pic.
Well I have to hand it to you Scotty,the old girl scrubbed up alright!It belongs on a survivor-mower page somewhere.
The 'before' pic of the SC looks just like any "low grade 30% Irony Aluminium"that I have seenIt just goes to show,a person ought to have a careful look first before throwing upside down in the heap.
I suppose the good thing is you can check your purchase against current prices?'Irony-ally' usually pokes along at or above 35c per kg.
The first assumption I am making is that the Toowoomba foundry was responsible for the casting work?Do you know if that's the case?
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Hello all
Poor Ozzie. You try and help someone and keep coming home with more stuff.
I brought 2 mowers with the Villiers Lightweight and, blow me over with a Budgie feather, both mowers are worth preserving.
The Southern Cross mower is a KX-A and indeed made in Toowoomba. By the engine/flywheel it was made in 1963 and there are only 3 mowers with the Villiers engine on the Southern Cross registry.
The Rover is the other mower in post #12. It's got the red top and dirty bottom. It's what they called an Economy as it's a poverty pack mower. There is nothing on it that can be done without. There's not even a throttle control up on the handlebars. Even the ROVER is done with a stencil and some paint.
It scrubbed up near as good as the Southern Cross.
No comment on pricing of the mowers. Some may be offended.

I went and had a look at a Villiers Torque master and the carbi is indeed the same as the Lightweight. I got another carbi but, sadly, it came with an outboard. I just can't take a trick.

Gees I hope someone can find a carbi soon. The shed is filling up quicker then ever.

Anyways, some more pictures
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Default Re: Villiers Lightweight Engine Carb & Manifold

Amongst all them carbies do they ALL have the same serial number of B12A? I get the feeling that they are all the same carby that have the same fluted bowl and would fit your project.
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Default Re: Villiers Lightweight Engine Carb & Manifold

Thanks to all, good to see the carbs are still about but not here. One will show up down the track I’m sure - I have plenty of restorations to do so the singer can be shelved for now.

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Hereís one resto hanging, the Singerís a long way off yet. At least itís complete with carb.
Happy days!!
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Amongst all them carbies do they ALL have the same serial number of B12A? .
Hello Cobba.
The number on the outboard was hard to see but it is B12A
It is curious to me how the two mower carbs are the same but different.
On the Southern Cross the carb faced forward. On the Rover it faces backwards.
On the Southern Cross there is one butterfly, on the Rover is two.
They also have different air cleaners and the Rover has a tin shroud around the cooling fins/head (partly seen in pictures) where the Southern Cross does not and there's not one listed in the parts book.
Also of note is the inlet manifold on the Rover has a section cut out to fit the exhaust manifold. On the Southern Cross the exhaust is screwed in. I wonder why Rover did the manifold thing for the exhaust if these were a poverty pack mower?
The Southern Cross is governed. The Rover isn't.
Another thing I've noticed is the engine numbers for the Lightweight. They have different prefixes ie number before the X. I wonder if this signified where they went?
What's the engine number of your engine Ozzie? Have you by any chance looked at the date on the flywheel?
The Rover is earlier then the Southern Cross if the date on the flywheel is anything to go by.

Cheers Scott
PS: what is the outboard Ozzie? It looks like a nice bit if kit.

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You can just make out the 12A on the Torque Master. It was hard to get a picture as the auto focus liked the fuel tap/bowl better

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Scotty,
Outboard is a Sea Tang - by Owen Cox Brisbane I’m told.
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