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1922 Kohler 11OV D.C. Restoration


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The shop did a nice job on that radiator. I took a different radiator to the local radiator repair shop and the young guy had NEVER EVEN SEEN A BRASS, SOLDERED RADIATOR. Seems everything is plastic and aluminum nowadays. I ended up re-soldering the tank myself and it held.

I was lucky in that my original honey comb radiator was still good. I keep it full of an anti-freeze solution so it stays that way!

Looking forward to more of your posts.....
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]I've finally got just a little time to get back to this project. Its been to cold and busy to do more than plan and think about this project until now.
With a little research and input from other stackers I've found out that in 1922 they didn't have a mechanical fuel pump for these generators. In order to get this back as close to original I needed to find some parts. Bill Howard from Ontario Canada (a fellow staker) was generous enough to send me a few parts he had. I was able to get the correct timing cover casting without the mechanical fuel pump mount, and a Vacuum operated fuel system. Until it warms up more I'll spend my time disassembling the vacuum fuel pump, cleaning and restoring it and painting the new casting.
I'm attaching photos of the wrong fuel pump and the correct casting along with a partially disassembled correct fuel pump.
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Phil, I've had several Stewart vaccumn cannisters and have NEVER seen on that nice! Nice find. I restored a couple of these units and you will love how quiet and smooth it runs.
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I restored a couple of these units and you will love how quiet and smooth it runs.

Thanks Mike, your not to far from me (in relative terms). I might have to pick your brain sometime if I run into problems I can't figure out when working on this. Thanks.
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Got the vacuum tank separated today, unexpected rust between the tanks but it does not look rusted through. Will scrape parts then soak in Carb dip tank then de-rust solvent. Then inspect, repair, and coat inside and out with redcoat gas tank sealer. Will let you know how it goes.

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Hello everyone, its finally warming up enough to get back to work on this project. I've got a few questions for bhoward, vanman, or anyone else who can help.
I'm close to attempting a quick startup with no real load just to see how it runs. How does an early rig like this shut itself down? I do not see any place where a kill wire attaches to the mag. I do see a manual kill button on the bottom of the mag.
There are two wires going to a solinoid housing on the base of the zenith carb.
to the main control box. Does it shut down by stopping the fuel flow with this solinoid?
My manual does not cover this very well. I can't get more photos right now because my camera is in the syrup shack in the woods...
I look forward to everyone's comments.
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There should be five terminals on the back / side of the controller, and five wires going to the engine. Two go to the governor switch, two go to the electric choke solenoid, and the last one to the magneto.

The choke solenoid should only be energized during cranking.

There's got to be a terminal somewhere on the mag for shut down, possibly where the shut down button is.
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Vanman, I'm sending you some photos of the wires behind the control box and of the mag. I could only find 4 wires and still nothing on the mag. I'll keep researching and read my manuals again.
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Oh wow, that one is different for sure. I've never seen one with only four connections on the terminal board. Interesting!

Yours must predate the ones I'm familiar with. I'd be inclined to suggest running it to see how it works. It would be fun to trace the circuits in your controller. That wire looks to be in beautiful shape by the way, be gentle with it.

The oldest manual I have is 1936 and it has the 5 terminal diagram. Here is the oldest plant I have, 1934.
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I'll be getting a 24V battery very soon and a temporary gravity fuel system and see what happens. As I move forward, I'll keep you and anyone else interested updated.
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