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The reason for the two sizes is that the 11.00X22 was a tube type tire. The 11X22.5 is the tubeless equivalent. The difference was to prevent people from trying to mount a tubeless tire on the lock ring rims for tube type tires.
Macks almost always had Dayton wheels. Budds were optional and mainly ordered on the west coast. The Budd wheels are more popular now because morons would strip the studs in the Daytons and rarely got the wheels on straight. The Dayton is actually the better system. A Dayton wheel and 2 rims weigh less than 2 Budd steel wheels. In addition the spokes of the Dayton act like a pump impeller, moving air over the brake drum. A Mack just doesn't look right with Budd wheels.
I like them both and have both. I'm not into fancy aluminum rims or such but my 57 B-61 is on Budd hubs, (F&R) and I run steel wheels on it. I have a 58 B-61 that is on Budd fronts and spoke rears and I like that too. SNUF, (shown earlier) is on spokes R&R and will stay that way. Not hard to true up Dayton style hubs and use a torque wrench rather than an air wrench if one takes the time or cares about their work.

An antique Mack in the east sure doesn't look right on Budd hubs and an antique Mack in the west doesn't look so good on spokes unless a B-80 series, (IMO).

Here is my 73 RL-797LST from out west:

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Good discussion guys. I like the read.

I'm at the tractor show in Eagleville as I type this.
I brought 5 farm tractors and the Mack.
I drained all the old diesel from the tank (that I could) and replaced with 10 gallon of fresh diesel. Also added a can of Seafoam.
This rusty wreck is getting a lot of attention.
They did a tractor drive through the countryside and through town. I followed the tractors with the Mack. It did well. It's idling a little better. Wouldn't idle before. Now, if left to idle, it does well for a few seconds then starts to somewhat surge. It will eventually kill itself. But still better.
The drive was longer than anticipated. We were good for 3 hours. I roasted in that cab! Mainly drove in 3rd and 4th gear keeping it busy above idle.
Torque'y bastard! Hard to get a smooth acceleration if already rolling along.
Got a lot of video during the drive. Will get it edited, combined and lost a link here in the next couple days.
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Finally slowing down after the long weekend hauling tractors, hit & miss engines and the Mack to the show.

They did a tractor drive. I thought it'd be a good opportunity to drive the Mack and get some bugs out of it. Followed in behind all the farm tractors. The drive lasted 2 full hours. I'll be honest, it got hot in that cab. Even with the large portions of floorboard missing.

It seemed to run okay. I had drained most of the old diesel out of the tank. Looked like someone dumped transmission fluid in the tank. Guess they were trying to clean up the injectors. Didn't even smell like diesel. I put 10 gallons of fresh diesel in the tank along with a can of Seafoam. It's idling better.

I took a bunch of video shorts during the drive. You'll see all the tractors. But you'll hear the truck.


Video is 12 or 13 minutes long...
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Knew there was a seep in the upper section of radiator.
Yesterday, while driving, it chose to show itself.
Little more obvious now


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The horn(s) are missing on the truck.
It dawned on me I have a couple pair of horns in the shop not being used.
Sat them on the cab. Kind of goofy looking. I don't know.
Maybe mount them on the rear of the cab.






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Boy, they sure got after that Grill shell and headlamp panels to remove the Grill shell panel didn't they?
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Yeah they did.
One of the dumbest things I think I've ever seen.
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Yeah they did.
One of the dumbest things I think I've ever seen.
I've seen holes bored and chrome snap in plugs inserted too in the past. Damned dumb. 1959 and newer you don't have to unbolt the fenders. Two bolts at the bottom in the front, and two just under the top fender closing panels along with the "X" braces at the radiator support frame and the grille shell slips off.
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I've seen holes bored and chrome snap in plugs inserted too in the past. Damned dumb.
Your name wouldn't happen to be Rob, would it?

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Short little video from taking the Mack to the Fall Redneck Rumble rat rod car show and swap meet yesterday. Got a ton of attention with with it.

Video quality is not so good.
https://youtu.be/tXd0Ea2LZ8k

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After the car show, driving the truck up on the trailer.

Video is much better quality.
https://youtu.be/Ra2ZtpkaXKs
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Your name wouldn't happen to be Rob, would it?

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Short little video from taking the Mack to the Fall Redneck Rumble rat rod car show and swap meet yesterday. Got a ton of attention with with it.

Video quality is not so good.
https://youtu.be/tXd0Ea2LZ8k

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After the car show, driving the truck up on the trailer.

Video is much better quality.
https://youtu.be/Ra2ZtpkaXKs
It would but don't tell anybody.....
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Found a pair of these at the swap meet last weekend for 3 bucks.
They'll look much better than those goofy-ass train train horns. Which btw will get mounted in a less noticeable location.









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Also picked this up for 10 bucks. They only had one and it just happened to be for the side that's broken on mine.



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The original horns go with the lines of the truck well. The train horns, not so much but I have a set on my B-61 mounted just in front of the battery box on the right side triggered by an electric air solenoid. This so when I can finally pass that 80 year old driver that should have long ago surrendered their driver's license, let them know at 155dBA that I'm going around them.

The 1/2 dogs on the hood panels you should keep an eye on ebay for. Used to be plentiful in good condition but in later years some have been reasonable, some bring stupid money. I have a few sets I've had replated but can't remember if any will eventually be surplus. I have five B models with three being B-61, and one being a B-67, and another being a B-62 which is parts only. It's the script "Thermodyne", and "Diesel" you are missing from the hood panels that is really expensive. The dog, and dog mounts are available but kinda of expensive also.

Where do you recognize me from? I've been around a few of the truck sites in years gone by but not so much any longer.
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The original horns go with the lines of the truck well.

Where do you recognize me from? I've been around a few of the truck sites in years gone by but not so much any longer.

The horns I found at the swap meet aren't Mack. But they have the fitting and valve on them, and for 3 dollars it's worth not being tempted to put those train horns on top of the cab.

Was reading on the BMT page. Lot of people asking questions about their trucks. One of the responders is from Farmington IL. From there I used a SWAG (scientistic wild ass guess).
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The horns look like Bendix-Westinghouse and were supplied to many truck manufacturers through the 1960's. Although they may not have come from a Mack, they may be the same.

The BMT site. Such a shame where it has gone, or become. I moderated there for many years and was focused on growth and quality of posting material. Had a tremendous knowledge base with plenty of participation and very good civil debates such as you would have in person.

Sadly political correctness entered the fray along moderators being overridden, and administrators begging for money pretty constant. Many supported the site financially but when it finally ran it's course, I departed. That was the end of 2012 and I still keep in touch with many through mutual interests in the trucks. A full 80% no longer participate there, (all fellow moderators are gone from my era) but I don't know specific reasonings. Most have facebook, (I don't) and I suppose stay involved there. I tried to re engage earlier this year after retiring from my employer but the current crowd just isn't the same.

This is a pretty good site but my time here is short. You would be welcome to make contact via email to discuss anything Mack truck related as really don't know too much else.....
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I hear ya. I drive a 2006 Chevy Duramax. Don't plan on getting rid of it anytime soon. The Duramax Forum I use had changed drastically. Stay in contact with a few friends there, but not too much happening in there anymore.
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I keep saying there are no plans to fix up this old truck.
But a few things need attention.
Not only do I have bulldog for the right side bonnet, horns, hood emblem, old style steering wheel spinner (I know, be careful), I also picked up a pair of rounded corner west coast mirrors. I'll smear some multi-colors of paint on them so they don't look new.

I have another question. The exhaust is rotted in many places. It's 3.5 inch pipe. I'm thinking about staying with 3.5 but not using a muffler. Annoying sound but it'll be okay for what little it will get used.
Think it would be silly to do twin stacks?
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I keep saying there are no plans to fix up this old truck.
But a few things need attention.
Not only do I have bulldog for the right side bonnet, horns, hood emblem, old style steering wheel spinner (I know, be careful), I also picked up a pair of rounded corner west coast mirrors. I'll smear some multi-colors of paint on them so they don't look new.

I have another question. The exhaust is rotted in many places. It's 3.5 inch pipe. I'm thinking about staying with 3.5 but not using a muffler. Annoying sound but it'll be okay for what little it will get used.
Think it would be silly to do twin stacks?
3.5" pipe was common on the non turbocharged Mack engines. Dual exhaust will not run conventional but can be done. Need a "Y" splitter under the truck dumping just back of the rt. side fuel tank. The right tank is more forward of the left side tank and 10 gallons less capacity. A piece of flex tube will correct for the offset to the back of the cab for mounting on the lt. side. I like single myself on the rt. side of the cab but that's personal preference. No muffler will drive you nuts if on the road for any time at all as the "cackle" of the exhaust tone is loud.
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