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My first engine (3HP Jaeger)


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Old 01-22-2009, 01:48:41 AM
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Default My first engine (3HP Jaeger)

hi all, i just got my first engine, its a 3 hp jaeger,
i have a few questions id appreciate help with..
the engine runs good, i saw videos of it b4 i bought it,
its been setting for over 30 years, its got the usual grease or dirt soaked oil packet all over it,
id like to clean it up, change the oil, clean the plug, and oil every think up b4 i start it.
and naturally i dont know squat about this ol thing, id really like a good service manual.
i was thinking about soaken it down with pb blaster penetrating oil and using rags to clean it as good as possibly, it still had 90 % of he paint still on it.
any good tips on cleaning these ol things ? id like to remove the water tank too, and clean every thing.
thanks ..
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Old 01-22-2009, 08:31:15 AM
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Elwood,
Congatulations, hope you have lots of room, the Iron Fever will soon take hold. Try to find a local club and you will most likely find someone eager to help someone new. The sponsors here on the Stak sell manuals, there is also a registry for Hercules built engines, search this site and you should find all of the neccessary information. Can you post pictures and serial and model numbers, the help you get can be more specific that way. My first one was also a Jaeger, mine required lots of work and lots of parts, I learned a lot bringing it back from the grave. I had an engine buddy there to help when I first got it running, he showed me all of the things to watch out for, how to adjust things, and most importantly, how to shut it down if things got out of hand. I strongly suggest doing the same, nothing beats experience, besides, it's a lot more fun to have a friend there. Jaegers are real nice runners, you should enjoy having it.
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Hi Elwood

I got my first engine this last fall. And it too is a Jaeger! Like Walt said, check the sponsors here. You can get everything you need and help keep the site going.

Post photos when you can.
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Old 01-22-2009, 09:07:23 AM
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hey guys, thanks for the reply,
i tried posting some pictures to the test forum but had no luck doing so..
here is a you tube link to the videos the guy sent my b4 i bought it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UUQYBUssa9c&NR=1


i have a feeling this is goanna be a very fun new hobby or maybe obsession, hah.
i went out to my shop last night at 12.30 and 3 something, wow, i hope sleeping gets easier, smile ...
thanks for the welcome..
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Old 01-22-2009, 10:29:05 AM
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Wow. He must have had the fuel mixer loaded to gas to get it started with the choke plate wide open !!! I doubt if it could draw fuel from the tank with no choking. With the plate 70% closed it would have run without repeated squirts of fuel.
Looks like you bought a good one. Have fun.
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Old 01-22-2009, 10:58:37 AM
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Default Re: My first engine (3HP Jaeger)

I saw that engine on eBay. You have a nice engine for your first. I know you want to tear into it and work on it, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it. Just give it a good cleaning on the exterior. I wouldn't remove the hopper (water tank) unless I absolutely had to. You can clean it out just fine by using a shop vac with crevice attachments or sometimes I will duct tape a piece of garden hose to the vac hose to get in the tight spots. Get a good stiff piece of wire and use that to loosen up junk down in the bottom below the cylinder and vac it out or flush it out through the drain hole.
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Great looking Jaeger. Jaegers were made by Hercules in Evansville, IN. I have one like it but is was a rust bucket and had top be repainted. You can get most any part you need from vendors on this site. I did notice that you have a fuel filler hole on both sides of the base.
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Default Re: My first engine (3HP Jaeger)

Elwood:

If you are in an area that you can get away with hosing it off, get some Gunk at your auto parts store and use it per instructions. It is not harmful to paint or decals (as far as my experience goes) and the only thing you will have to do afterward is to lightly oil the exposed metal surfacts to retard rusting.

To clean out the cooling hopper, just remove the drain cock to give the biggest opening and use a garden hose to flush out what rust and crud you can get to. What's left won't hurt a thing.

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Nice piece of iron!....not to change the subject, but, what's the story on that flattie in the background???
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Congrats....using a $2 can of WD-40 spaying it all over, wiping off, works great for cleaning up ANY thing, old, painted. It puts a nice coat to protect it too. WD-40 makes a spray bottle, I like using it this way with buying it in the big cans. If you can't find that, the spray cans will work, they just don't mist as nice as that bottle you fill.
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Great looking engine!! A good cleaning and you will have a very nice looking engine. And yes inquiring minds want to know all about what looks like a well dressed flattie in the background??
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Hello When you get it running close the chock plate up some on it. You may also need to turn the needle value on it also. close it off and start to turn it about a quarter of a turn are more on it to where it start to run good on it .Hope this will help you some. Good luck on it
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Old 01-22-2009, 02:29:39 PM
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Nice piece of iron!....not to change the subject, but, what's the story on that flattie in the background???
I had to look at that myself. Looks pretty neet I bet that was somewhat complicated to make that a fuel injected kit. Thats somethin how you can here the plugs fire in the video. Probably not resistor plugs then.
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At least you know its a running engine. yuo've got half the battle done. now just to get it running right. good luck and have fun
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hey thanks to all you guys that replied to my post, im haven a great time already with my new little engine,
i guess im headed out to the shop now to work on cleaning it up.
i guess im goanna use wd40, i have that and pb, but ive always loved using wd40, smile, maybe the way it smells hu..
im ordering service manuals for my jaeger and my stover from this sites sponsors, and i plan on being a regular here,
and to those who ask, the flatheads in the back ground are my first love for years now, i have 5 running ford v8 flatheads and 2 none running ones.
something about old engines just draw me in, and i sware, the oil blow by on this jaeger smells just like my flatheads, hah
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Default picture stuff, sry ot ..

hey i posted some pictures and a link to my jaeger on you tube, but i didnt think it worked, did someone help me out ?
if i got it wright, cool, if someone helped me, i appreciate it very much and would love to learn how you did this, hah.
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probably good ol craig doin his "magic" just helping you out. i dont know how he does it though.
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hey all, i did a few things to my jaeger,
first i wanted to clean the fuel system, so i removed the gas tank, it is broken where the filler goes in, removed the exhaust manifold to get the carb off,
i soaked the carb and various small parts in carburetor cleaner for a couple days, didn't soak the gas filler cause i didn't wanna lose the paint, so im hand cleaning it.
i soaked the engine for 3 or 4 days with wd-40 then scrubbed it with solvent i use at work to clean transmissions, then washed it with hot soapy water. rubbed it all down and used compressed air to help get it dry.
then i rubbed it down with ATF, then rubbed it all in or off.
i scrapped the water tank, blew a bunch of air in it and flushed it, left it soaked with pb blaster, goanna re-flush it in the morning.
i cleaned the mag contacts with break cleaner, and put electric contact silicone on the contact points.
humm what else,
well i ordered a service manual and a spark plug and a gas tank and new fuel line with a valve in it from hit n miss.
well so here are some pictures, hope not to many,
oh, i cleaned all the oiling holes with a pic and air, 5 i think or maybe 6, and put oil im em, i cleaned most of the old hard yellow grease outta the greasers and put industrial black molly in them and screwed them and refilled and screwed them till i have black molly coming from all arias, then of course, cleaned up the mess.
ran a bunch of clean 30w non detergent oil through the piston oilier hole,
i pulled the spark plug and rolled it over and over till i got all the new grease and oil flowing outta every where.
ok, hope this ant to much..
cheers.
elwood

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I cant see your pics but you sound like a proud daddy!
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I cant see your pics but you sound like a proud daddy!
yea i am, my first old engine,
i gotta bunch of flathead v8s but it ant the same.
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