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Old 02-07-2016, 11:30:15 PM
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I went to my uncles' place today to get some pictures of the 17-28 still in the barn, and lo and behold he had pulled it out already. He wasn't home and with some wind today the hood blew off so i put it back on.
He bought this tractor at a farm sale in 1973 when i was 14 years old. Some time later i tried to talk him into letting me get it running for him and he always was too busy. He did get it running once after changing out the head and tinkering with it, but it never ran for long. He got the water pump rebuilt but never put water in it. I even bought decals for it around 1983 and gave him a reprint manual.
I bugged him about it for years, finally gave up as i had other projects. He decided to have a sale and move to town, so at the last family reunion he told me to make an offer on it and he would sell it to me prior to the sale, but he wanted to put it out in the yard for advertising. He jokingly told me anything would be profit over what he paid, 50 dollars. I told him it was worth well over that now.
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Russ... Glad to see you got one! Your 17-28 is slightly newer than mine. Your tractor is very similar to mine except yours is more of a transition unit exhibiting some but not all of the improvements for the 1927 year. Per the parts book the serial number on this one should fall between 21546 and 22809. I'll be looking forward to the future updates!
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Yep, serial number 22507.
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Are gaskets sourceable? I know i'm jumping the gun as the sale isn't until May, but.
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Nice tractor, Russ! I will be following this thread with great interest. I have #20763 and #25506.
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Are gaskets sourceable? I know i'm jumping the gun as the sale isn't until May, but.
Russ...If you are looking for something to putz with you could remove the governor assembly as I can see that it needs repair. Something is wrong with the inner plunger shaft and you will have to address this before you can run the engine anyway. Removal of the governor shouldn't affect the ability of the Twin City to draw in the hordes for your uncle's sale!
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Did you see that flatbar spring on the linkage? I was wondering about that, these are new to me completely. Thats all for your threads, they will help out a lot.
From what i can remember, this tractor sat outside at the original owners' farm with a piece of inner tube in between the head and block. The engine never stuck this way, but the head was rusted through on the side out of the water jacket.
I bought my first tractor from this uncle, a 22-36 IH. I paid him payments and when the last 50 dollars were due i found him a good head at Garfield, Kansas to pay him off. Over the years he ended up with another head yet, and another manifold which looks later model. This manifold has been cut and welded to turn up. This tractor also had an International vortex air cleaner on it , but unc found the one that is on it minus the stack. Is that air cleaner right?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/1929-Twin-Ci...oAAOSw1ZBUsCx1

Russ... buy one of these and you can answer your own question. I bought one when I started on my 17-28 and it was the best 20 bucks I spent on the project. I liked the spiral binding because it lays flat and it was cheap enough that I could smudge up the pages and not have to break out into a cold sweat doing it.

You will find it very useful.
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Well, i did it. And it was a little more expensive than some that have sold recently, but i guess two of us got caught up in the bidding. Got it home yesterday and did some evaluating.
Uncle told me before the sale that he thought something was still wrong with the second head he put on it and that the third head i picked up for him years ago was on a pallet with some other parts some distance from the tractors. I bought that head and those parts for 10 dollars, that head cost me 50 dollars some years ago.
This may be my last tractor for my collection, those that i'm gonna keep. It was the first one i wanted to buy around 43 years ago, and ended up buying my first tractor from this same uncle 10 years later in 1983. So i thought it right that keeping at least the first and last with thier stories would suit me.
I knew that uncle had sold this tractor at auction once before, but this weekend the son of the buyer finally told me the rest of the story. His dad bought the tractor for 80 dollars and my uncle thought that wasn't enough so he bought it back. This saturday that same man bought my uncle's WC Allis all these years later.
I got the original operators and parts manuals with it and found some invoices for parts and repairs. It was overhauled at the Chevrolet garage in Hillsboro Kansas ion 1940.
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Sometimes when i'm working on something that doesn't go well i stop and go work on my older tractors for therapy.
Yesterday i was working on the injection pump on my loader tractor and almost burned up the starter trying to bleed it, so.......i pulled the head off the 17-28. Valves don't look that bad so far, some guides had been replaced. Cylinder walls need honed and i'm sure to put new rings in it, i will have to pull the pistons and rods yet.
My uncle used Permatex on the head gaskets. You know, the gaskets are pretty clean but the block and head surfaces are going to need scraped. Whne the head started coming loose i could smell that Permatex smell and knew right away what he had done. Thats a smell you won't forget. Rocker arms need reworked, some jamb nuts are on the top of the arm, some on the bottom. Noticed some dents in the valve cover from the rockers hitting sometime in the past. Looks like uncle did the long bolt and flatwasher stack farmer repair here and there.
Pics to follow.
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