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Old 11-28-2016, 10:09:06 AM
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Uncle Dan said that the original owner used this tractor for belt work on the silage blower after it was retired from field work, sounded like this was its job for many years.
There are grease zerks that go to the cross shaft bearings, might have been owner installed, with long tubes that look like it could be greased while its running.
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Hi Russ...hope the work on your Twin City is going smoothly. I just got my new oil strainer for the TC 20-35 from McMaster-Carr and thought you might be interested as this one fits the 17-28 as well. It has a 30 mesh pleated stainless screen for more filtering area than the original and has the correct 1 1/4 x 3/4 fitting attached for a screw-in replacement. This works out well for non-soldering types like myself.
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Thanks Mark, i'll check today on ordering, got two bearings coming for the fan drive shaft and input shaft thanks to you also.
Just yesterday morning i heard the news that an old local collector passed away last weekend. When my uncle bought this 17-28 he also bought a large TC/MM on steel from the same owners' auction. I always remembered it as a much larger tractor than the 17-28 with wide rear wheels.
Anyway, this fellow recently passed had bought that tractor from uncle Dan some years ago, and i heard he still had it. I remember the exhause was open back then, i'm sure the engine was very rough.
Gleaner will know this fellow as Willard H, had a lot of tractors and etc.
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Russ...that sounds interesting about the potential lead on the Big Twin Cam. Keep us posted.
If another clutch center disc doesn't show up I'm pretty sure that yours can be redrilled. I'll bet someone with a Bridgeport and some kind of indexing head could figure out how to do it.
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Russ, if three of those holes are not too far out of round, you might bore them out to true them up and then press brass or steel bushings in them to remove the excess play.
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I may just do that, wondered if boring and bushing took away too much material but i don't think so. Since it has been re-drilled already the second set of holes isn't real bad, may try it.
Does anyone have access to facings? These are abount an eighth inch but sure don't want to take it apart again.

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Whatever supplier our parts guy called said we got the last one of those screens they had.
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I was able to do some more dissasembly this evening. The rod bearings look good, i was surprised as no rings were stuck. The wrist pin bushings have a little play, nothing serious, i was surprised to find none of the rings were stuck. At some time one of the rod bolt nuts must have been misplaced and someone put two shallow nuts in place of the original deep one, possibly the Chevrolet garage that overhauled it in 1940.
The cam gears are good, but the idler gear from the crank to cam gears is worn pretty good, still, i think if i can't come up with a better one it will still work. I would feel better replacing it if possible.
The oil pump looks good, although the half moon keys need replaced. The key on the fan drive/governor shaft gave a good fight, had to be heated and cooled before it came out.
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More pics, looks like re-assembly on the head and honing out the cylinders will be next.
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That idler gear is not too bad, Russ, I would not be afraid to continue using it. The idler gear on my 17-28 is worn so bad the teeth are sharp enough to shave with!! When I get around to rebuilding it I am going to make a new gear.
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What do you guys think of drilling six more holes in that driven disc? I'm just thinking of six to keep it somewhat balanced as it has six in it already.
I have a lead on one with only three that needs re-drilled if i would just wait, which i sure have time before the engine is ready.
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