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RIDER ERICSSON 6" - Brick - Cuir Piston Gasket


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Old 08-08-2017, 03:55:24 PM
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Hi,
Today I removed some pieces to see what to do.
As expected the furnace is OK, only the refractory bricks are missing.

The cold cylinder, power piston and displacement piston are OK.
Finally I saw the leather gasket:
It is a little thin and dry and where the strip on the cylinder (now is about 1/16 ").

The hot cylinder has the corroded bottom.
There is some hole, I hope to solve with a weld, hope of not having to be forced to replace the entire bottom.


The water pump is perfect!
I tried pumping manually, a nice stream of water and no leak .... almost did not disassemble it.

Now I have two questions:
- I see many engines with brass / bronze nameplate and serial number over 20.000.
My engine has an aluminum nameplate (at least I think) and serial number 15.957, is it normal?

- more or less now I understand the functioning of these engines,
but I doubt remains:
what is the purpose of the valve located between cylinder hot and cylinder cold?

Thank you all for the precious help, and forgive my bad English.

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Davide


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Davide,
Your drawing is correct piston + (12x2), although I've seen some a little larger or smaller. I sent you Don Worley's email also.
Hi,
I did not receive any private message, and no mail, but I found Don Worley in this forum, we now contact.

Thank you
Davide
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Old 08-08-2017, 06:12:47 PM
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Davide,
Sorry you did not get my message, but it's good you are now in touch with Don. Regarding your questions, I have never seen another aluminum plate, so it's very unusual, perhaps a reproduction(?). The serial no. should also be stamped into the top of the cylinder and these numbers should match. I'm not sure which valve you are referring to, but there is a valve that releases air and another one to drain the engine's water jacket. The air valve is left open when heating the engine to drive out any accumulated moisture, then it is closed for running. Good luck with the welding--I think you are talking about the displacer piston. A hole in this piston will definitely affect its running.
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Davide,
Sorry you did not get my message, but it's good you are now in touch with Don. Regarding your questions, I have never seen another aluminum plate, so it's very unusual, perhaps a reproduction(?). The serial no. should also be stamped into the top of the cylinder and these numbers should match. I'm not sure which valve you are referring to, but there is a valve that releases air and another one to drain the engine's water jacket. The air valve is left open when heating the engine to drive out any accumulated moisture, then it is closed for running. Good luck with the welding--I think you are talking about the displacer piston. A hole in this piston will definitely affect its running.
Hi Brent,
Yes the serial number on the nameplate and the cylinder corresponds,
Maybe you're right it will be rebuilt?

Then .... thanks for the valve ... correct, so in the start, even the fumes of the lubricant will be removed.
Here is the LUBRICANT, what do I recommend to use? Silicone spray?

As for the holes to close I do not talk about the displacement piston, that's perfect!

I speak of the bottom of the hot cylinder, the one in contact with the flame.

About FLAME, using wood, how long will I wait for the operation?

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Davide,
Silicone spray can be used and sometimes helps a sluggish engine, but I use something here called "Marvel Mystery Oil"--don't ask me the ingredients--it's a mystery! It does not burn. But the leather doesn't need much lubricant--it should be well saturated with oil and perhaps some lithium grease. I avoid using motor oil for automobiles in the cylinder, but others may have different experiences and should speak up.

The bottom of the cylinder should be easier to repair. I have never run my engines on wood but use propane gas, although I know others who use wood and say their engine runs better with wood compared with gas. It will take 10-15 minutes or so to warm up with a good gas flame, maybe a little longer if you are pumping water. Not sure about wood. The old catalogs say the engine will run when the hot cylinder becomes "dull red" in color.
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I use neat's foot oil to keep the leathers flexible. Marvel Mystery Oil smells and looks like automatic transmission oil IMHO.
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this?
http://www.marvelmysteryoil.com/index.php/site/mmo/

Or that?
http://www.marvelmysteryoil.com/index.php/site/mat/
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I use the one in the red bottle (1st link). It doesn't take much--just a little on the cylinder walls. You can also saturate the leather with a mixture of turbine oil (Zoomspout is an example) and white lithium grease. If the leather is really saturated, the cylinder doesn't need much additional lubrication.
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But inside the displacer piston what is it?
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Sorry Davide, I don't understand your last question.
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