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Pincor Pioneer Gen-E-Motor Model RF35DV


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Old 03-18-2014, 04:18:46 PM
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Default Pincor Pioneer Gen-E-Motor Model RF35DV

I have a Pincor Pioneer Gen-E-Motor Model RF35DV 115/230 volts and I am looking for help. Its been setting in a barn for many years.I got it free.I got it running by cleaning the points and cleaned the flojet carburetor however it produces no power. I flashed the field with a battery and that didnt do it .
It looks like the plug in may have been changed the 230 volt looks newer than the 115 volt.I am looking for a wiring diagram for it . I would appreciate any help I can get .I believe this unit was made in 1966 it has a Model 23 Briggs and Stratton cast iron engine 9 HP. Its roughly 3500 watts.Perhaps I did not flash it correctly. I used a 12 volt battery and while plugged into the 115 volt plug. I also tried an electric drill and that didn't bring it to life. The brushes look good and they are not stuck. The slip rings look good also.Thanks Kevin
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I have some info. Need an email adress.
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Thanks Jack My email is Shawsplace56@aol.com Kevin
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Default Re: Pincor Pioneer Gen-E-Motor Model RF35DV

Before you start taking it apart what is the speed of the system? Get the speed of the generator up to at least 1800 RPM. or maybe it's a 3600 RPM. Your drill will most likely not turn it fast enough to generate. I had two identical generators turning them with a motor. One would generate and the other wouldn't. I found that I needed another 100 RPM then it worked great. Ron
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I brought the speed up on it and nothing happened around 3800 . Jack sent me a Service manual and I have been reading through it. It does not list my model of generator but i can come pretty close with the 3000 and 4000 watt 115/230 model . I suspect perhaps this may have been wired incorrectly at the plug and it has been changed. That said I will check the wiring and move about from there . There is a section in there about flashing the brushes . Not sure how you go about that unless you ran some wires out the end of the generator. There is also the light bulb thing. Learning new stuff No clue I cant break it its all ready broken Kevin
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Be aware that some units had the two halves of the 115 Volt outlets on opposite windings. Therefore the tab on the hot side of the 115 outlets had to be removed. Replacing a 115 outlet without breaking off the tab places a short across the 230 volts.
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Yes the tab is still on there and wonder that myself .. I think you may have helped me on a Briggs / Generac rewire I did and thats what i found on that one . THanks I will be looking at that Kevin
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That's a very rare piece. You wont find much Pioneer stuff around.
Check you gen-set for a bad diode.
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