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Tractor ID's, Rumely and Case Crossmount


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I am looking for a bit of information, first is to ID a Rumely, it is small much smaller that a 16-30, I would guess it it about 12-20 or so. It has the stamped steel frame rails, any guess as the year and model, also where is the serial number located. It looks to be an older restoration and may have replacment fenders, could the tag have been on the fenders?
Secondly is a Case 12-20 Cross mount, serial number #45489, any idea on the year of manufacure?
I would like to talk to some one with a similar Rumley as we are going to try to get it running before fall.
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Looks like your CASE is a 1923
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Case Model 12-20
Year Starting Serial Number
1921 42256
1922 43943
1923 45281
1924 48227
1925 48402
1926 55919
1927 62409
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I am looking for a bit of information, first is to ID a Rumely, it is small much smaller that a 16-30, I would guess it it about 12-20 or so. It has the stamped steel frame rails, any guess as the year and model, also where is the serial number located. It looks to be an older restoration and may have replacment fenders, could the tag have been on the fenders?
The smallest lightweight is a 15-25....Model L.
There are 4 places to look for numbers........and it's doubtful the numbers will match. If they WOULD happen to match it would be very unusual.
The first is stamped into the front bolster just above the bucking pocket.
The second is stamped into the face of the engine crankcase at the upper left hand corner just off the edge of the cover plate.
The third is located on one of the flanges where the transmission halves bolt together on the right hand side viewed while standing on the platfrom.
The fourth is the tag..IF it has one.
I was told by "Rumely Bill" Krumweide to use the bolster number as the tractor number in case you need to get a replacement tag.
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Thanks so much for the info. I "Googled" it and got every thing I needed. First web page it hit on was Chris and Rod Eppings page. Go figure. I should have rememberd that. I am sure I will have plenty of questions as we begin working on these two tractors.
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For what its worth the first group of tractor's off the assembly line in 1923 was 12-20's 45281-45780 yours was about the 208th one off the line. I am not sure if the build period for the racine plant ran October - September
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heres the Bolster and bucking pocket?
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Here's the bucking pole pocket---the round indent in the front casting. At the top of that pocket is a very small rectangular area where the number is stamped.....not cast.
It's a very small pic but you'll get the idea......
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Well.... Just for the Heck of it I went out and looked at my 25-45 R.....

Above the Bucking Pocket under the eyebolt I have stamped 206 and the 6 has been stamped over with a 7.... Same size and style of stamp...

On the top of the transmission case I have clearly 205.

On the Name Tag on the valve cover I have 377 scribed over with 206....

I can't find a number on the engine crankcase although it looks like a good place to stamp one.

So what number is my tractor...????

This tractor was haulled from North Dakota in about 1961? on a single axel cattle truck and was bought through Bill Krumweide.... Then went to Beldenville Wis and I got it at that auction in about 93 or so...
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Ken.....if you are standing in front of the pulley scrape the left side crankcase face area from, roughly, the center and upward...the number is USUALLY located higher on that face rather than lower. Sometimes the numbers aren't very deeply stamped and it SEEMS they used the same size stamp for the block number and the transmission case flange. The Y I used to own had the engine number double stamped too but both were genuine Y numbers.
Your name tag stampings are REALLY wierd though..... ......as a 206 number would be in the Y series.
IT IS POSSIBLE your R, at some point, was sent BACK to La Porte for a rebuild or something and they updated it..................
But THAT raises the question that if they DID update it why didn't they do ALL the updates? High stack, spoked flywheel and so on....................
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Well.... It is very clean ( Only a little paint ) where the engine number should be stamped. But what I think happened with the valve cover tag is it was lost and replaced with one from tractor no 377 then they scribed the number 206 over the original number.... Now Why would they place the name/Rating/serial number tag on a easily lost part like the valve cover only Rumely can answer that question....

As far as the number on the front bolster I can't tell which was stamped first... The 6 or the 7... So for now I will call it no 206. I don't think it was ever upgraded as it still has that Clunkey solid flywheel...
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