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Old 11-04-2012, 02:46:11 PM
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the wife bought me my christmas present last week. boy she must love me to buy me junk. its a 7 or 8 hp eaton waterloo contract. it should go nicely with our 3 hp. it has the clutch on it but what does the hand wheel look like for this clutch. does it just free wheel in the groove does any one have a picture.
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Old 11-04-2012, 03:36:54 PM
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that is a really nice engine but please tell me the pictures were taken last year cause if you got snow now we will be getting it here soon. and i hate snow.

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Old 11-04-2012, 05:28:05 PM
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Default Re: eatons 7 or 8 hp 1915 christmas present

That clutch looks to be the same brand as my Champion/Hercules has.
Though I presume yours is shaft mounted rather than bolted to the spokes?
I can't remember what the name brand is, but I think it's in the Hercules Economy literature at www.herculesengines.com
The kind i believe it is has a round handwheel that is split in two pieces and bolts together after you put the halves in the groove. It is actually cast in one piece, but made to "break" into two pieces and then bolt back together.
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that is a really nice engine but please tell me the pictures were taken last year cause if you got snow now we will be getting it here soon. and i hate snow.

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we just had the snow a couple of days ago

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i wonder if any one is reproducing the clutch wheels
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Old 11-04-2012, 07:39:21 PM
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Walter,

I'm thinking that clutch might be a Bierman. There doesn't appear to be a whole lot of info on them but I should have an old A. Stanley Jones catalog around here someplace that has an illustration. I'll try to locate it and advise further.

Chuck, we've had more snow already this fall than all last winter. Measured 12" on the level in the back yard after the first heavy snowfall. Thankfully it's been warm enough to have it settle substantially except where it's drifted to several feet deep or more.

Bill

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Walter,

Your clutch is indeed a Bierman. It matches the illustration in my 1918 photocopied catalog. According to the catalog listing they were made in 16", 18" 20" & 22" diameters with a 6" face. Prices varied from $29 to $40 for cash or $37 to $48 for time payments (credit).

I tried scanning the page with the illustration but didn't work for some reason. May try again later.

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Walter,

If I'm successful at this there should be a copy of the page showing the Bierman pulley. I apologize for the poor quality but working from a photocopy has it's limitations.

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thanks bill. i still would like to see a pictur of that hand wheel. iv figured out i can get pieces cut on a water jet but the original design from what i can tel from your catalog and from what i see on the engine doesnt leave much room for you knuckles. oh bill we will have to try and meet one day
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http://www.herculesengines.com/hercu...al/Default.htm

I can't get some of these pages to open up. I'm sure that's where I got good pictures before.
My 12 horse has a 28" diameter and an 8" face.
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im havin same problem not all the pages are opening
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Does one of the spokes have a casting number of A34?
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Walter, send a private message to Keith Kinney and ask him why his pages won't open? I'm certain that's where I saw great photos before.
It shouldn't be too hard to fabricate a handwheel pattern or get one cast from someone elses.
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Does one of the spokes have a casting number of A34?
no but looks like 054 or C54 that was just a quik look
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we had a little bit of snow last night
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Default Re: eatons 7 or 8 hp 1915 christmas present

Walter,That is a Nice engine! I believe its a 6 Hp possibly a 7 Hp engine,,those look like the lighter weight 36 inch flywheels? 8 & 9 Hp engines have a heavier 36 inch flywheel,Glad you found it.
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