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Nelson Bros. Jumbo 1 3/4 HP Model TA


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Old 08-28-2015, 08:07:49 PM
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Default Nelson Bros. Jumbo 1 3/4 HP Model TA

How do I find out a production date on a Nelson Bros. Jumbo 1 3/4 HP Model TA Serial 19203 on the tag and stamped on the flywheel?
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Old 08-29-2015, 12:24:59 AM
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Default Re: Nelson Bros. Jumbo 1 3/4 HP Model TA

There really isn't reliable dates for the Nelson Brothers engines, although engines using a Wico EK magneto are post-1926.

Yours is certainly an interesting configuration. It has the slanted hopper used on the Maynard contract engines, but solid flywheels where most of the T and TA series Nelson-Built engines have 16" spoked flywheels on them.

Likely a safe bet that yours is a later production given the serial number, since the T I have is SN 5555.
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Post 1926 is a start. From what I understand the T's had spoked and the U's were solid flywheels. This is a TA with U flywheels and the 3rd style of magneto drive. These mean a later model to me. I am just curious as to when it was built? Thank you for your input.
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Old 08-29-2015, 07:22:48 AM
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Default Re: Nelson Bros. Jumbo 1 3/4 HP Model TA

Yeah....I wish you the best of luck accurately dating a Nelson. My guess is early 30's. Do you know the history of the engine? Could it be assembled from a couple different aged donors?

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I believe it to be all original. The serial number on the tag matched the one stamped in the flywheel. I went on a link that had a semi registry going for Nelson Bros. engines. There is not enough data to make a history with these engines.
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https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/...tions/messages

Did you try here?

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Default Re: Nelson Bros. Jumbo 1 3/4 HP Model TA

Clay, engines similar to yours were available in Marshall-Wells Company 1939 catalog. The engines were available on wood skids or on iron sub-base.
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Default Re: Nelson Bros. Jumbo 1 3/4 HP Model TA

Interesting that the ad pictures are flipped relative to the descriptions.
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Default Re: Nelson Bros. Jumbo 1 3/4 HP Model TA

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Interesting that the ad pictures are flipped relative to the descriptions.
I noticed this too. The throttle governor engine clearly shows the hit & miss mixer, while the hit & miss engine clearly has the throttling carburetor on it.

From the sound of things this is a much later production, towards the very end of the type being produced.
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