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Reason why Engines, Tractors, Cars and Implements cost more in Canada.


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Old 02-08-2010, 01:05:16 PM
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Default Reason why Engines, Tractors, Cars and Implements cost more in Canada.

Back in the Teens and Twenties in Canada we imported most of our engines, tractors, cars and farm implements from the U.S.A. Here is what the Canadian farmer was faced with.

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Just out of curiosity, is there any record (I should've said known record) of anyone actually comparing prices, and determining if the difference was the amount of the import etc costs/taxes?fees and not partly or wholly because of any then existing currrency differences???
It would, of course, be difficult on something built in Canada out of imported raw materials, but it should've been easier on finished imported items...
Here in the States we're often misinformed, disinformed and just plain lied to by manufacturers, processors, distributors, merchants and dealers, as to why something allegedly costs what it does, and "transportation costs" and "import costs" are fertile fields for manipulations...
Odd case in point: Major cutrate gasoline dealer often keeps gas cheaper in Sandy, OR, than in it's Portland, OR, stations; but Sandy is 25-30 mi--uphill--from tank farm in Portland. So they truck gas 25-30 miles uphill, and then sell it cheaper...
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Default Re: Reason why Engines, Tractors, Cars and Implements cost more in Canada.

To bring this up to date, our nearest city London buys Ford Crown Vic's for police cars $33,000. Similar town in Texas pays $22,000 for same vehicle . They are made in Canada about 5 miles from London !!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Why the difference???...only 2009 Crown Vic price I could find quickly was $27825 USD for basic car here in States...
Police car would have additional costs, probably at least to 30K and more here...
Local Texas dealer wouldn't have that much markup, so someone"s cutting price here: factory?? factory and local dealer????
Is London PD paying retail, and if so, why??
Mayor, City council/whatever getting freebies from dealer???; someone there have his finger(s) in the pie??...
Or is Canadian retail even higher, and, if so, is there that much added in Canadian sales txs/fees????
Fascinating; don't know what present currency situation is...
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Apparently its a Ford thing, they can do it and we're too polite to complain. Our dollar is 7% below yours.
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Default Re: Reason why Engines, Tractors, Cars and Implements cost more in Canada.

The police cars are basic models. All the lights , sirens and other stuff is added on by a vendor for the police, at least all the ones my dealers sell are that way, though they are interseptor models.
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Default Re: Reason why Engines, Tractors, Cars and Implements cost more in Canada.

Ford, and others as well, give big discounts to fleet and government buyers.
Although this doesn't account for the difference from Texas to Canada. Unless for some reason the London, Ontario police department isn't recognized as a government unit.

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Default Re: Reason why Engines, Tractors, Cars and Implements cost more in Canada.

Actually that might have something to do with it.
London City Police are municipal and are not associated with the Ontario Provincial Police who would have a much larger fleet to purchase for.
Still government but definitely a smaller "fleet"
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As Mark said, it's common for US builders to give special discounts to fleet buyers as a way of keeping their cars out on the street, the thought (hope) being that
(1) the more X's cars are seen, the more likely a prospective purchaser will be to consider one, thinking all those other people must know what's good...
(2) to shut out, as much as possible, anyone else's cars ...
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Default Re: Reason why Engines, Tractors, Cars and Implements cost more in Canada.

When you come down to it, the United States of America was based on a Tax Revolt and Canadians are for the most part apathetic. The powers that be know this! We get screwed on almost everything up here...
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SDP: Wellll...it's not that simple.
You don't have millions of people who have to decide whether to eat or see a doctor, or eat or fill prescriptions, if they manage to see a doctor...I know we have wealthy or politically powerful people coming here from all over the world for medical care, but God help you if you're not one of them.
While we've only been up for a couple visits, if it wasn't for family problems that tie us here, and my own (medical) inability to take cold winters, we might well've seriously considered emigrating.
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Default Re: Reason why Engines, Tractors, Cars and Implements cost more in Canada.

I wonder if the price difference is In texas they show what they paid for the car before being outfitted with all the equipment vs what the finished ready to go to work car costs.Bob
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SDP: Wellll...it's not that simple.
You don't have millions of people who have to decide whether to eat or see a doctor, or eat or fill prescriptions, if they manage to see a doctor...I know we have wealthy or politically powerful people coming here from all over the world for medical care, but God help you if you're not one of them.
While we've only been up for a couple visits, if it wasn't for family problems that tie us here, and my own (medical) inability to take cold winters, we might well've seriously considered emigrating.
Thanks for pointing out the Heathcare situation Bud, I am grateful for that here in the Great White North.

Currency has been fluctuating between $0.90 and $0.95 US lately so almost a wash. Before the crash when oil was $130 US/barrel we were over par with the greenback. Back then people were questioning the markup on vehicles even more so.
Oil is only going to go up in the future so someone better come up with a more appropriate excuse. It is possible the prices are based on the population of the country, knowing full well that they won't sell as many here as state-side. Still gets my goat though...
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