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Rice & Sargent Corliss steam Engine In Camillus NY


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Camillus Erie Canal Park Rice & Sargent Corliss steam Engine originally use in the LC Smith typewriter factory in Syracuse NY It's run the second Sunday of the month in the summer. 450 HP, 150 RPM when used from 1913 to 1950. Jim Mackessy presenting.
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Nice two eccentric corliss.

This is the engine George Corliss would not make because he considered the power output & efficiency of his name brand engines (single eccentric, detaching) was "sufficient."

Advantage of two eccentrics is it allows the engine to release "later" in the stroke, giving additional power for a given cylinder/machinery size. Downside to this is a loss in efficiency since steam is not expanded quite so well or so thoroughly. Two eccentrics and a separated admission and exhaust resulted in a more "flexibly" operated engine.

George Corliss catered to the "luxury" market in Corliss engines. He had his name, and his reputation for high efficiency, and he would not chance ANYTHING on a technical development or compromise which might somehow be thought to "tarnish" that image.

Buyers of engines by the 1890s knew otherwise - that capital first investment was as important if not more important than fuel efficiency. One could compromise a bit on engine efficiency, buy a physically smaller (cheaper) engine, run the factory and cover the peak daytime load and perhaps more easily (and maybe even more efficiently) accommodate a lesser loading on the "off-shifts" and make more money overall in the production/capital cost balance. Cheap coal provided the impetus to this thought. And one of the reasons that Edwin Reynolds ultimately left Corliss to build his own line of engines embodying a two eccentric design.

Still, a surviving Corliss engine in ANY of its forms/evolution is a thing to behold. Something magical about them.

And nice this one has the multipolar generator. I didn't wait to see but one assumes the slate control panel too.

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Nice video. Not many R&S engines left.

The NEWSM has all of the Rice & Sargent business records and manufacturing drawings, but doesn't have an R&S engine.

During restoration of that engine they found that the dashpots were stuck from rust, and they were afraid to force them apart without knowing how they were built. They gave me the Order Number, R480, and I looked up the Bill of materials. The BOM actually included the as-built dimensions for the piston, cylinder, and valve gear parts. From the BOM I got the dashpot drawings numbers, and scanned the drawings. As you can see in the video they did a great job with the restoration.
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Mike and the folks at NEWSM were a huge help in getting this engine rescued and restored. Bob Merriam shared photos of some of his rescues which helped us determine how to go about rigging this one out, Mike did a ton of research on Richard Rice and John Sargent, and both provided copies of original materials that revealed the as built configuration of the engine and the builder's trials results. Don't miss their web site and the info on Providence Engineering Works there if this engine interests you.
The engine as built had a 300KW D.C. generator on it, and probably had "live front" switchgear on slate originally. The set up today is as it was rebuilt in the mid 1930's with a Westinghouse 480v. 3 phase alternator and dead front switchgear of the same period. This was done to make it compatible with the "grid" power which had recently become available and was by then cheaper than generating their own, at least in the summer months, in the winter the exhaust steam was used to heat the building, tipping the scales in favor of generating in-house.
I also owe a big thank you to the Thompson brothers here locally who volunteer and make possible running this engine once a month by donating not only a building for the fuel but also the fuel, pumps, hauling, and manpower on run days and behind the scenes on our many projects. - Jim Mackessy, Camillus Canal Society Steam Project.
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Hi Jim. Are you going to be running the engine this summer at the canal days and when are the dates for that.
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Bill;
Towpath Day will be Saturday, August 11th, 2018, 11A.M. til 4P.M.. We will be running the engine, as well as a small turbine. The boats will be giving tours of the canal, we will have several groups playing a variety of music, there will be crafters, historical re-enactors, and food. I will be at the throttle as well as some of our other volunteers, and anyone else who wants to try their hand at it. C'mon down! - JM
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Hi Jim, if nothing goes wrong with travels I'll be there to help. Would be nice if a bunch of Stakers would show up, maybe some of the local ones could become volunteers.
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Here is an interesting fact for y'all.The LC smith model 2 was actually made before the LC smith model one. I collect typewriters as well. Probably have arround 80 everything from a Blickensderfer to a Williams.
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