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Old 02-03-2006, 03:25:44 PM
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Kecks didn't come to Montana in any great numbers. QUOTE]
Well there weren't great numbers of K-G made. I am constantly amazed at how far the engines made it from this rather small maker. I am from Mt.Vernon IN.
Andy,
I think the reason was due to their size, not their quality. Any Keck owner I have ever talked to loved their Keck.

I think I could come up with well over a hundred examples of Reeves engines from Columbus, Indiana having been here, including 16 examples of the Big Forty. The difference being not in quality, but in size. Most of our Reeves engines seemed to be 32 hp, with 25 coming in second and the Big forty coming in third. Since Keck didn't build in these sizes was likely the reason we didnt' see them?
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OK, that worked. I forgot to say Chuck, that the 25 horse Keck engines were made for about 10 to 15 years from about 1905 to 1915. They only made few, less than a dozen. Some of these were stationary skid engines. The above specs. are from a 1915 catalog and they still list the 25 horse. At one time, Steve Dunn from OK was doing research on the whereabouts of any 25 horse Kecks. He came up empty handed. I have been seeking any 20 horse DSGs Kecks to no avail, as I fear they too are extinct.
If anyone has any info. on Keck Gonnerman equipment, re. serial numbers, pics., etc. please put it here on this post. Thanks.
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I have copy of a list of Kecks that was put together in 1990 By Larry Gaertner--The latest number known to him was #1883--the last dbl cyl that he was aware of was 1875-(a 22HP). He does not give the year built for any of them. I have copies of some orig. paperwork for #1808--a 22 dbl rear mount--built in 1926. The list I mentioned above is 12 pages long and I do not have the needed equipment to post it, but would be happy to look up things on the list for you if that'd help?
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If I ever knew, I have forgotten, is there a legend,story behind the mascot on the smokebox on K-G engines?
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Thanks for the offer Chuck but I have Larry's list also, and I am currently trying to update and add to it. So far I have about a dozen additional engines to add to the list. Also the last Keck engine buit was 1874, a 19 horse on a 22 boiler. We do know 1873 is still around. I'm still not 100% satisfied that 1874 was the last engine though. There were engines that appear to have built later with a lower number, but that's another story for another time. If there are any numbers greater than 1874, they are rebuild numbers. 1875 was sent back to the shop, overhauled and renumbered. I've got the original number, that I will have to look up later. I also have, I'll just say, SEVERAL copies of Keck Gonnerman Record Sheets that I use for my personal use. Please, don't ask how ...
Half Keck, I have asked EVERYONE even remotely associated with Keck Gonnerman that very question and no one knew the answer. Morris Metzger once told me he heard that because the pony was running, that Kecks were "always running" IE. working. As for as the gal on the pony/horse and the history behind the logo, I don't know.
Also, did you know that the very early Keck Gonnermans had the wording "Keck Gonnerman & Co." on their smkoke box doors? And that the little Kecks, IE. 14, 13, 10 horse tractions had the lettering in straight lines instead of around the edge of the door? Next time your're here at the farm, check out the 14 horse door on the wall in the shop. Maybe I can post a pic. here later.
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HalfKeck, I have your door picture but you will have to wait until tomarrow so I can use my work computor and crop the pic. The Keck Gonnerman lettering is still around the door edge but the & Co., Mt. Vernon, Ind. is blocked. Kinda like the bigger doors but little more distinct
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KGC1615,
I have jotted down a few K-G numbers if they were NOT on Gaertner's 1990 list. Contact me for more info if you do not already have: 1359, 1313, 1292, 1011, 1584, 1837
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HalfKeck, here is the picture of the smaller KGC door. Keck Gonnerman is still around the edges but the rest of the lettering is straight. I guess it is a obtical illusion that it is more prominent than the big door because it has the "&" in it. Second pic. is for our Canadian friends.
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If I ever knew, I have forgotten, is there a legend,story behind the mascot on the smokebox on K-G engines?
I always heard it was one of two things:

1) It was the mechanic running to town to get repair parts

2) It was someone running away hollering, "Head for the hills! She's about to blow!"

Of course, both of these were told in jest....

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KGC1615,
I have jotted down a few K-G numbers if they were NOT on Gaertner's 1990 list. Contact me for more info if you do not already have: 1359, 1313, 1292, 1011, 1584, 1837
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Chuck, if you would, please send me the info. you have on those numbers. Either on or off post. I'm really curious about #1011, as to where she is.
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Have you any thoughts on how some engines were round spoke, some were flat spoke? Was that an option that the buyer specified? I have never seen a flat spoke side mount, were there any? And finally, how many flat spoke single rear mounts would you guess still survive? I think that I have only heard of two or three. KG1615, I think I may have left an engine in your yard, when it is finished, can you call me so I can bring it home?
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