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Twin City 27-44 Restoration Started


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Old 01-31-2010, 09:09:39 PM
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Default Re: Twin City 27-44 Restoration Started

I have not yet picked up a parts manual for my T/C 12/20, so could somone tell me if those oilers (TW2414) would fit a 12/20

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Rick: They are listed in the 12-20 parts manual as TW 2414 and look the same as the ones shown on the picture of the 12-20 engine. They are much smaller and a completely different type than what is used on the 17-28. I also need them for my 'still in the old barn' 12-20 I'll have to check with George Moir in Stony Plain as they should have them in stock.

Thanks, Jim, for the info
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I bought these oilers with some other TC parts at an auction a few years ago -- can somebody with a parts book tell me which model they are for? Most of the other parts were for the 12-20/17-28. It looks from the tag like these might be # TW 899A. Does this match up with anything? They have a flip top and a sort of string/rope that runs down from the inside and extends below the threads.

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Default Re: Twin City 27-44 Restoration Started

Rick: Here is a page from a 17-28 parts book. It looks like this oiler was used from the start of the 12-20.
Phil: Your Welcome. If George Moir doesn't have them this is where I got mine. http://www.modeltford.com/item/3817.aspx
Bryan: It looks like your oilers were used on the late 17-28 tractors.
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Bryan; My '28 17-28 (25067) has that type of oiler. They held a lot more oil and the wick gradually fed the oil to the valve gear.
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Nice to know about those oilers because I would hate to have to hunt them down or make them.
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Got a few more details of the slow but sure resto on the big twin cam.
The only oil filter these machines have is a screen located at lower sump area in the pan. Inside the screen is an anti-collapsing coil spring. Water often collects in bottom of pan and will rust the spring to pieces inside the screen. These rusty spring pieces can get sucked through the oil pump, so I always tell folks to screw this filter fitting out of pan and have a look.
The screen is available through McMaster-Carr and fleet farm has the fitting and spring selection. I like to buy a nickle plated spring that is heavier than original and stretch it out a bit to make them longer as needed.
I use tinning paste and 60/40 solid wire to put these together with, just remember to keep moving along the screen. If you stall for too long, you will burn a hole through the screen.
The baby twin cams use the same setup
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Default Re: Twin City 27-44 Restoration Started

A few more pictures,
Time to put the pan and flywheel on, here is a look at the twin cams going back in. this must be done with engine on its side because the lifters can slide all the way through their bores and end up caught inside the upper block where you can not get at them from outside
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Default Re: Twin City 27-44 Restoration Started

Nice to see some more progress, Tony. thanks for the pics.

I've yet to pull the pan from the little TC and see what lurks in there!!
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Default Re: Twin City 27-44 Restoration Started

Tony;
Nice job on canopy. I've seen the one G. Schaff had with welds in place of bent iron. Since you've developed a bending procedure, you should make and sell canopy iron kits ready to assemble. I have an original on the 20-35. I still need air cleaner.
You have a lot of good hints on working on these TCs. Thanks
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