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Here's Fred Nolin's 16 HP HW a few weeks ago.
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beth, i noticed the serial number plate is on the smokebox of eder's 16, tried zooming in on it but couldn't read it. photoshop may help.

how many highwheelers are still around total?
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Thank You for the picture of the High Wheeler. I see that engine has a different front pedistal and the drive pin looks to be operated of a lever Mechanism instead of the the twist cam in the little pulley. Was this something they did with all the highwheelers or was this a one of a kind?
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I don't know a lot about steam, but after looking at all the other pictures, I believe 6713 is a 16ds. I also looked the pedestal over and it has been moved forward about 30 inches
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The 16 ds that Don Smeal ran as a young boy and was his first restoration is #7576.
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I believe it is a 20ds?
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Melvin,
That engine sure looks long in the boiler and I don't know whether it is all because the king post is just behind the smokebox door? Judging from the size of the smokebox door RING, it IS a 16hp??? Although it looks like it has too much distance from the front of the steam dome to the smokestack... That's more like a 20hp DS spacing. I'm posting a picture of Lester & Doris Lindenmeir's Reeves engines. Lester's is a 20hp ds and Doris' is a 16hp ds. Note the smoke box rings. The smokebox doors were the same diameter. Lester's has the serpentine Emerson-Brantingham door and Doris' has the earlier Reeves & Company door.



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Thank You for the picture of the High Wheeler. I see that engine has a different front pedistal and the drive pin looks to be operated of a lever Mechanism instead of the the twist cam in the little pulley. Was this something they did with all the highwheelers or was this a one of a kind?
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As far as I know, there are three 16hp Highwheelers and NO 20hp Highwheelers extant.

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The Highwheelers had to have a taller kind post than the standard. Our 20, and I believe the 16hps (Don Atzinger would know?) had taller front wheels to compensate for the extreme height of the rear wheels. Due to the axle and cannon bearings having to be so high, the boiler also had to be raised to compensate. The Highwheelers did NOT use the pin clutch. They had a lever actuated "dog clutch".

My dad's 20hp Highwheeler had friction disk steering assist and the automatic firebox door opener as well. (Dang, I wish it still existed and better yet, was setting in my shed!)
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Beth,
Now that I read the entire thread, I've come up with a few items for you.
Elmer Hingston of Post Falls, ID has 16hp #7785 and I'm placing a photo of it here.

Notice it also has Gould valves.


Ken Eder's engine is a double simple. I can't read the serial number either.

Gallahue's #8017 is a DOUBLE SIMPLE (which I was fortunate enough to run in 1958, when owned by the late Clifford Vaverka). That was the Second Annual Blackhawk Show at Cedar Falls, Iowa. I was the 14 year old kid in white coveralls.


Nolan's 16hp Highwheeler is #7904. All of the 16hp engines above are Emerson & Brantingham built Reeves engines.


BTW, all Highwheelers were double simple and all were Canadian Specials. (Now my late friend Lyle Hoffmaster told of a 20hp Highwheeler that had a 25hp cross compound engine, but Clay wouldn't put it out that way from the factory, due to the tangental bracing for the bull gearing on the driver wheels. That Tangental bracing was also the reason the Highwheelers did NOT have their steel BULL gearing running in an oil bath, as the standard Canadian Special engines did. The standard engines drove the drivers from the bull gearing hub to the wheel hub.

Besides Fred Nolan's 16hp Highwheeler and Don Atzinger's 16hp Highwheeler; there is #7860, in Kentucky owned by the Shelman family. It is not operating.

Here's a picture of a 16hp double simple that my late friend Oscar Cooke owned in Billings, Montana. Oscar referred to this engine as a 13hp, but it is NOT. While it still retains the Reeves & Company (If it IS the original and not replaced?) smokebox door, it has the late style Reeves "change speed" governor and the heavy round front axle. It could have been an E&B engine as well, as they used up the Reeves & company smokebox doors, before they went to the new E-B doors.

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This is the Smeal 16hp Reeves #7576 that Delwin referred to.

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I was playing around with Ken Eder's photo. I am going to GUESS #7566 and we'll wait to see what it REALLY is!

Until Don Atzinger sends us a better photo, I have this one of his Highwheeler that his late father in-law, Lyle Hoffmaster, sent me several years ago. It appears Don was having work done on the governor, as the main steam line is removed.
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