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Hart Parr seat on eBay auction


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Old 12-24-2009, 03:08:49 PM
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Question Hart Parr seat on eBay auction

I wont leave my opinion about this so not to encourage or discourage, as the e bay sale hasnt happened yet. Check out ebay listing, http://ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380188394515 solid brass hart parr tractor seat. Thanks.

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Old 12-24-2009, 03:30:23 PM
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Don't know if it is real or not but I can see alot of cracks and breaks that he can't see.
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Old 12-24-2009, 03:37:28 PM
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I don't know if Hart-Parr ever made brass seats, but if they did I think this one would have been thrown back in the crucible for another try.
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Old 12-24-2009, 03:47:48 PM
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I can't see any cracks or breaks either. Just a poorly cast piece
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Old 12-24-2009, 03:55:35 PM
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It should be worth about $5.00, a little more when brass price was higher.
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Old 12-24-2009, 04:06:05 PM
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i wish i had 1 to sell
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Old 12-24-2009, 04:46:45 PM
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I don't know if Hart-Parr ever made brass seats, but if they did I think this one would have been thrown back in the crucible for another try.
I agree, John. Looks like a failed attempt at casting a brass reproduction.
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Old 12-24-2009, 05:26:52 PM
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Looks like a bad attempt at a recast. As said above. Im no hart parr man but who ever's bidding on that peice dont know what there bidding on i'd weiger. And i would have thought the originals were cast iron.

Probably worth 5 bucks or so in reality.
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Old 12-24-2009, 05:29:20 PM
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Default Re: Is this real?

My opinion only, but it looks like somebody cast a brass seat from an old broken cast iron plain one, two ribs broke on one side and three on the other. If you look closely at the HART PARR letters they are from a stenciling machine used to make a stencil to paint over. Not the type used to cast letters in iron.
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Old 12-24-2009, 09:40:50 PM
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Was watching/ bidding on an old brass Hart Parr seat. Lightweight Hart Parrs didnt have this fancy of a seat, would this have come from an early one cylinder tractor or from an early engine. Wouldnt had to gone very far to pick it up if I had won it. All suggestions welcome... Ebay # 380188394515
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I doubt that it is authentic, As a retired foundry person it appears to be a seat that someone has tried to duplicate from a cast iron seat.
If you notice it has several areas of non-fill, caused by amatuer sprewing and or material to cold whe poored, or even possibly a light charge of material
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Old 12-24-2009, 11:56:35 PM
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I wouldnt get it. definetly looks to be a VERY poor re casting
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Old 12-25-2009, 09:33:16 AM
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Default Re: Is this real?

Not all that into old seats but I wasn't aware that anyone ever made cast brass seats. The only ones I've ever seen are cast iron and pressed steel.

Would cast brass have been strong enough to support some old farmer's kiester?
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From what I have learned about Hart Parr over several years of studying literature and parts books on Hart Parr they never used a cast seat of any kind. Useing cast would have been to expensive. They would use steel seats because they were cheaper to make and would last just as long or longer than cast and also would be much lighter in weight.
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Glad I didnt get this one, someone must be !@#$%^ than I am !!!!
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Old 12-25-2009, 11:33:57 AM
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WOW ... Glad I didnt get it.... Would have gone into the brass scrap barrel......
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Old 12-25-2009, 01:08:45 PM
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I dont think its real either but thats just my opinion,sure glad im not the high bidder.Im sure we everybody has paid a little too much for something before,how about the detriot coil few weeks ago it went for around 500.00,I think it pays to learn whatever you can with this hobby.

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Old 12-25-2009, 02:20:00 PM
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Default Re: Is this real?

I moved this thread here as I think more tractor folks will see it here rather than anywhere else.
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Old 12-25-2009, 05:05:47 PM
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Bidding has ended and I missed the price, anyone catch what it roughly sold for?
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Old 12-25-2009, 05:54:27 PM
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Default Re: Is this real?

It sold for $172.50

Personally I think its a reproduction from a bad seat, and if thats the case, somebody got Had, one can hope that it is not a fake and the buyer is happy with it.
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