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Old 12-31-2009, 11:12:59 AM
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Hi,

We have in our collection a 1923 Robert Bell 20 hp Steam Traction Engine which we will be reboilering and rebuilding this year. I have most of the parts but we are unable to locate the fire grates. If anyone has any helpful information it would be greatly appreciated.

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Default Re: Looking for Robert Bell Parts

Ted,
I know Kory Anderson casts firegrates for Case engines, with some dimensions on Robert Bell grates he could probably cast a set for your engine.

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What are the dimensions of your firebox?

There are several people that may have patterns that will work for you.

You might Kory Anderson, he is one of the sponsors of this site:

http://www.andustries.com/index.html

Or try Cattail Foundry in Pennsylvania. Emmanuel King has several patterns.

I have a pattern for 47" grates but it needs some work.

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Mike,

You type faster than I do.

Sorry for doubling up on information.

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Default Re: Looking for Robert Bell Parts

Robert Bell engines and Port Huron's are from the same family of engines, I know Dave Kemler has patterns for all the different Port Huron grates. If you PM me I can get his number to get you set cast if you would like.

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The fire box inside dimensions are 44" x 24"
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Ted,
If you are re-boilering the Bell, perhaps you better wait before sourcing grates. The new boilers do not always come out the same as the old for a variety of reasons. There are foundries in Ontario that can make grates when the time comes.
Is your Bell a water bottom?
Best of luck with it.
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i have a smoke box door for a robert bell if your interestested,and stack base
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Thank you G

I will keep that in mind. Do you know of Ontario contacts whom I can get in touch with when the time comes?

There is water in the legs around the firebox if that is what you mean "water bottom".
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Ted,
A water bottom has pressure area/water leg curved beneath the firebox. If that's what you have, then hold off on grates as they will be different for the new boiler. I will hunt up some addresses for foundries. You could make a simple wood pattern for the grates when the time comes. Also, there are a couple of other recently re-boilered Bells and maybe those guys will go in with you for new grates and cut down on the cost?
And, a slight change of subject! Do you have any pre-ownership history on the big George White you guys have? What is the hp, motor bore and stroke, etc.? If it is the engine I think it is, it was a special order from GW and may be one of a kind!
Pictures below show it in the museum when in town plus one at the International Ploughing Match at Meaford. Robert bin Sawyer and I were pitching sheaves into a Sawyer-Massey threshing mill right next to it!
I saw that White at Paisley a couple of years back. It was on the big sawmill there and ran like a queen! Dandy engine!
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G.
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