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How to: Convert ONAN CCK & MCCK 6.5KW to OEM Electronic Ignition


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Old 07-06-2009, 11:54:41 PM
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thanks for your details about converting to elect. ign. I was wondering about your comments on timing. What was the original timing 21 degrees?

I have converted a 4.0 cck using petronics unit. Seems to work very well.

I couldn't tell from your write up if you were recommending a change in the specified timing of your machine.

Thanks for your article and sharing it with others.

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for what its worth I took the EIK out of the box and installed it and the genset fired right up and sounded great. Checked timing and it was at 20degrees and I left it at that. I figured with as much trouble as Ive had Im not going to disturb it any
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Mine is running smoother than ever with the new wires my Dad built for it.

Super smooth at 122v about 60hz...

With both A/C compressors on it sits right at 120v and 60hz..... Love it.
The only time it waivers is when the Fridge kicks on and it lowers the RPMs very breifly.
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I need to add to this DIY
NOTE: If your spark plug wires are slightly older, you want to replace them while doing this conversion because the new electronic ignition will greatly improve your spark and in my case it burnt up my old chaulky wires.
Now that I have new wires, it runs like a champ and has a riduculously strong spark.
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I have an Onan 15 JC-3RV/8012S Ser. # 0369085888 4 cylinder air cooled. It has a Prestolite distributor, # 1GW-4409A 4 A. Is there an electronic ignition system for this unit? I e-mailed Pertronics in California and asked them. They said they had nothing to fit that distributor. What next?
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I'm not sure but I am sure there is some universal EIK that you could modify to work.

I would assume in that case it would be much like converting a V8 or another engine with a distributor.
Maybe someone else can chime in on that
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I was all ready to do the electronic ignition conversion but can't fing the parts especially#160-1376 any help out there?
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I was all ready to do the electronic ignition conversion but can't fing the parts especially#160-1376 any help out there?
I bought mine from the Cummins/onan dealership. They carry ONAN parts as well. The main thing is you have to tell them it's for a Motorhome or they won't sell it to you.
They are kinda strange about it. They don't want a non-marine part put on a marine application although the electronic ignition is FAR safer than the points because there is no open spark.
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my Commins onan dealer says the part is no longer available. Found the same story at several web sites mentioned here for parts. I think I found one at www.m-and-d.com but it was $344.25 The pertonics unit looks way more complicated to install so Ihave not looked into it. This weekend I put in new point, plugs and spark plug wires in my onan bga genset -1984. The unit is running much better but I have to adjust the carb to start and then adjust back to where it was after it warms up.

The 344.25 item is actually an electronic ignition from Magna arc. I'm note sure if it would have the same instalation as the onan?

I have been on line looking for 160-1376 and hsve found the magna arc model does fit my bga genset 5.0 and comes with the base and gasket so the price is getting closer to what I was expecting. I saw a photo of it. It looks like it fits exactly where the old point were and has one wire coming out that I assume goes to the coil and is grounded when instaled. I saw the photo @ onanparts.com and they confirm the part is no longer made but may still be out there. Anybody have any experiance with the magna arc?

Correction on the magna arc it does have a red and black wire just like the described here.
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