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Old 01-16-2012, 02:59:21 PM
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Patrick Ertel from Antique Power magazine here. I usually just read the posts here, but I'm trying to get the word out so I'm posting this everywhere I can. We have gotten 20 or so reports of an individual in Western Pennsylvania who is selling parts he does not have. It started years ago, died down while he was in jail, but he's out now and ripping people off at an alarming rate. The police seem to be too busy to get serious about stopping him, so we're going to have to get the word out to everyone. Please tell everyone in your club and all your friends to NEVER buy truck, tractor, or engine parts with a money order or money transfer unless you know the seller well. Especially look out for sellers in western Pennsylvania who insist on some kind of non-reversable payment and claim they will deliver the parts to you. The way to recognize this fraud is that he won't accept checks or paypall, doesn't want to meet you in person, and always seems to have a truck headed your way so he can deliver the part. Of course, once he has the money you never see the truck and never see the part. I won't list any of the names he uses because this isn't my forum and I don't want to step on any toes. You can visit the antique power website antiquepowermagazine.com and go to our facebook page for more info. This guy has cheated dozens of people out of thousands of dollars and he needs to be stopped. Thank you. Patrick Ertel, editor Antique Power magazine.
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Old 01-16-2012, 03:41:46 PM
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Thanks Path for the warning,


We know those fellas realy exist.

And everytime they jump up.
No mather where you live.
They are only busy to rip and steal out people.


About the Antique Power.

Like your magazine always very much.
Think we are now 20 until 25 year a member.
And every number is and stay fantastic.
The storys of Rick Mannen (Canadian Connection) but also the old pictures from the Attic and the people with there hobbys.

For us the A.P. is the magazine number 1, so the magazine of all magazines.

Keep publishing those wonderful story’s.

Greatings and best regards.

Henric and Chris

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Anyone here on the Stak had similar problems, so we can air this one out? Hate to see people getting ripped off.
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I ordered a set of rear fenders for my 1929 Mccormick Deering 10/20 in late November From Robert Lafeve in Peach bottom PA lots of tractor guys recomended this guy. I call him he tells me he is shipping fenders today then he does not.still do not have my fenders. anyone else have trouble with this guy?
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Mr.Patton,
You maybe should contact that gentleman you mention again regarding the fenders. He has been into that for many, many years and I think is a straight shooter. I have heard that delivery times might vary somewhat though!
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Mr. Patton, Bob Lefever and I are close friends, have been for years. Bob is a 100% honest person and good fellow. At times he may get overwhelmed and a bit off track but don't we all. If you need help getting your fenders or contacting Bob, please PM me and I'll help you. I can understand your concern but believe me, Bob is a man of his word. Thanks Fred Mellott, New Enterprise, PA
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This has been running on the gas engine forum:
http://www.smokstak.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107190
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Mr. Ertel,
And all enthusiasts,
I read the warning in Antique Power on this ruthless crook.
This cheating liar has burned bridges he will never be able to put back up. He will suffer many years for his deceitful actions and he desrves it!
I want to remind everyone that this person is not a collector. He is not an enthusiast that loves and preserves history. In an effort to remain positive here I would suggest that we continue to enjoy the fact that tractor people are good people, collectors are great folks, History buffs and restoration artists make the best of friends.
This one bad person will destroy himself in short order, but he can never take away unity and pride that all of us enjoy with one-another
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With out giving up any names this person is from the Monessen or Monongahela area of Western Pennsylvania ( Pittsburgh area ) . There are quite a few guys around here that would like to talk to him .:
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I believe the name of the offender has been given out in the "scams" forum of this website.

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Old 01-16-2012, 08:24:57 PM
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I had trouble with a guy by the name of Bill Stevenson from western Pa. If this is the guy contact the District Attorney in Greensburg, PA. at 724-830-3272.
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if you send him a money order, is he using a po box or address. should be easy to trace and to look him up. i know i would. i know i have with other a$$holes that cheated me. they will remember me
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Does this person have a name?
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I think we all need to find this man and maybe persuade him into not ripping people off again?? If he cant sign his name to the money orders, he cant cash them can he??
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Sound like the only you will get any action out of the dount shop boys is to make a nusance of yourself with the DA or state AG. Also, the postmaster usually takes an interest in this kind of thing. If the names are avaliable, why not post them? Kind of like the feedback system on Ebay.
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Patrick Ertel from Antique Power magazine again. We are getting reports that the crook in western Pennsylvania is out of jail and in business again. He is not using the Bill/William Stevenson name this time, so I can't report a name. Please, just be careful buying anything with cash, money order, or wire transfer if you don't know and trust the person you are sending it to.
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When you get wireless calls from who knows where with no number or name picked up by caller ID ask for lots more info if they won't give it I tell them go away not selling to them. Two weeks ago took my ads off Enginads because was only getting calls from scammers and caller ID finally picked up their numbers but no name and I ID them with online reverse phone lookup saying they were NY landline phone numbers. Caller ID was telling me wireless caller though ? Reverse phone lookups ID them as red flagged for numerous scams ! I told them email or text me more detailed contact info and we would work out sales to Canada where they first said they were from but were not. Never heard no more from them in over a week now. So be careful out there.
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Well I aint the brightest bulb in the 4 pack but if the man is using fake names, then why would it be such a issue to post them?
What is being protected by not posting fake names?
Just wondering.
I am so glad to see folks take the time to post about scammers. God knows we need all the help we can get to protect ourselves from them.
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just a heads up, I received a call from a friend who doesn't use the internet about a deal that sounded a bit too good to be true. as soon as he said it was in western PA I had a suspicion, a fast search showed the phone number he was given was the same 724-797-8536 number that has been associated with Bill before. This time he was using the name Richard Muldar of Harris PA with the same story of his dads 100+ tractor collection and just happened to have the exact parts that were needed from a couple of different tractors.
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I wonder how many new tricks he learned while in "Crime College"??
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